sable tireur
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Some of these replies read like some of you have a real ax to grind with Remington. My goodness!
In a certain degree of fairness, some who have tried to add up the costs of components to achieve the retail price being stated by Remington, have forgotten a fair sized cost, that of the brand name attached to this rifle, SIXSITE. Go take a look at their website to see what price ranges their clothing is in and tell us that they aren't getting a substantial spiff from each rifle for the use of their name.
https://sixsitegear.com/
Now, some have tried to wiggle in a price which included current labor costs from gunsmiths. Remington definitely has a leg up on the individual gunsmith for the costs of doing business but the individual gunsmith has all of those costs to pay all by himself. Just to be fair, go ask your insurance agent for liability insurance for being a gunsmith. From most agents, you'll get that look of disgust followed by the answer, 'We don't insure gunsmiths!' I couldn't get some of those agents to insure just my machines. They stated (and I recorded) they will not insure machines used to make guns. Then track down those agencies that do and ask the same question. Remington is paying millions in insurance premiums in more ways than just one. Now imagine all the settlements and the recalls...
I get the impression that Remington has spoiled too many of you with their attempts to build and maintain a level of cheapness for their everyday rifles. I saw one just yesterday (M700 SA), $335.00 complete with a cheap scope. Now let them throw in a customized rifle for substantially more (10x) and everyone gets upset. Does anyone remember the military contract they were awarded? $15,000 for each rifle kit which included a 10 year maintenance contract and parts. Nobody asked about the additional coverage of the contract, it's actually the most expensive part of the entire project since Remington has to repair and replace and keep all the parts available for that 10 years.
Without belaboring this much more, AG Composites is a fairly good size company, making stocks for lots of other companies as private labeled. They are not some little knockoff company making cheap stocks.
The big question is, would I pay $3,300.00 for Remington Custom Shop rifle? In one word, NO.
Is this a bad rifle, not in my opinion, just a little over priced...
Regards.
In a certain degree of fairness, some who have tried to add up the costs of components to achieve the retail price being stated by Remington, have forgotten a fair sized cost, that of the brand name attached to this rifle, SIXSITE. Go take a look at their website to see what price ranges their clothing is in and tell us that they aren't getting a substantial spiff from each rifle for the use of their name.
https://sixsitegear.com/
Now, some have tried to wiggle in a price which included current labor costs from gunsmiths. Remington definitely has a leg up on the individual gunsmith for the costs of doing business but the individual gunsmith has all of those costs to pay all by himself. Just to be fair, go ask your insurance agent for liability insurance for being a gunsmith. From most agents, you'll get that look of disgust followed by the answer, 'We don't insure gunsmiths!' I couldn't get some of those agents to insure just my machines. They stated (and I recorded) they will not insure machines used to make guns. Then track down those agencies that do and ask the same question. Remington is paying millions in insurance premiums in more ways than just one. Now imagine all the settlements and the recalls...
I get the impression that Remington has spoiled too many of you with their attempts to build and maintain a level of cheapness for their everyday rifles. I saw one just yesterday (M700 SA), $335.00 complete with a cheap scope. Now let them throw in a customized rifle for substantially more (10x) and everyone gets upset. Does anyone remember the military contract they were awarded? $15,000 for each rifle kit which included a 10 year maintenance contract and parts. Nobody asked about the additional coverage of the contract, it's actually the most expensive part of the entire project since Remington has to repair and replace and keep all the parts available for that 10 years.
Without belaboring this much more, AG Composites is a fairly good size company, making stocks for lots of other companies as private labeled. They are not some little knockoff company making cheap stocks.
The big question is, would I pay $3,300.00 for Remington Custom Shop rifle? In one word, NO.
Is this a bad rifle, not in my opinion, just a little over priced...
Regards.
