If the bullet is out, why not pull the bolt, use your bore guide, cleaning rod, jag, patch and push it out the front of the barrel? Am I missing something because it sounds like you guys are making it harder than it needs to be.
step 1 - bullet was stuck so I put dowel in from muzzle to tap out the bullet, the bullet was stuck much worse than I imagined and the dowel broke inside the barrel about 3" from the muzzle.
Step 2 - I threaded a rod into the base of the bullet and used a small slide hammer to pull the bullet from the breech end
Step 3 - inserted another dowel from muzzle to push out the broken dowel.
Apparently the 1st dowel flared where it contacted the bullet point causing it to jam and the force of trying to push that out caused it to also flare and jam where the 2 dowels met inside the barrel.
The oven heat trick allowed me to move the dowel about 4" toward the breech and then it stuck again. This was enough that I could grab the end of it with vise grips and pull but it pulled into in the chamber instead of pulling completely out.