Why the 7mm Rem Mag?

[wildcat westerner]

Beyond the pure emotionalism of this, let me say this. A few days ago I took an Oryx with my 300 WSM. I have owned and hunted with .300 weatherby, .300 ultramag and prefer my smaller cartridge and things just die faster with Better shot placement. That being said I recently was exposed to a 7rmag shooting 180 grain vld's and in terms of wind drift reduction and delivered energy at long (plus400) range was truly an impressive experience! I have too many rifles now, but if I was to choos right now as to single rifle , it would be the 7mm with 180 grain Bullets.

 

[Ninering62]

Beyond the pure emotionalism of this, let me say this. A few days ago I took an Oryx with my 300 WSM. I have owned and hunted with .300 weatherby, .300 ultramag and prefer my smaller cartridge and things just die faster with Better shot placement. That being said I recently was exposed to a 7rmag shooting 180 grain vld's and in terms of wind drift reduction and delivered energy at long (plus400) range was truly an impressive experience! I have too many rifles now, but if I was to choos right now as to single rifle , it would be the 7mm with 180 grain Bullets.

It really is - all that & a bag of chips across the board.

 

[montana7mmhunter]

When there exists the 300 WM? Just curious. Might need a nudge

I own both. I started hunting mule deer and elk with the Remington 7mm in Montana 25+ years ago. Over the past 10-15 years I have hunted mule deer and elk in both Montana and Colorado. The last 10 years has been elk every year and mule deer every other year. Both calibers shot flat and I have had success with both. I have not noticed an appreciable difference between in recoil shooting 160/175 grain bullets in the 7mm vs 165/180 in the 300 WM. 300 WM offers heavier bullet weights, as well the range (long range shooting) is greater for the 300 vs the 7mm. Over the past 8 - 10 years, I have favored the 300 WM (180 grain bullets) for the vast majority of my western hunts.

 

[NM-LAnk]

The only way to guarantee DRT is a CNS hit, ie shot placement. A double lung/heart shot anything with any caliber can oftentimes make 'the run'. There is also bullet construction, impact velocity and its relation to bullet construction, state of the animal at impact, and wound path that determine the duration from impact to death. Shot placement and bullet construction are far more important than bullet diameter in my limited experience. Hard for any animal under 1500 pounds to survive a well placed shot from a 7mm or 30 cal. bullet that is designed for the purpose and delivered within the design parameters. If you get that 7 em em it will not let you down if you do your part. It's always up to the nut behind bolt.

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah.... Ya know my father in law used to shoot mule deer with a 22LR. Seriously. I'm not arguing that a perfectly placed shot is important and will kill an animal with any appropriate caliber (and even inappropriate calibers like the 22LR). My point is, my experience is animals die quicker, especially tough animals like elk and oryx, when shot with a larger caliber. And marginal shots are makeable with a little more umph. I killed a mulie two years ago with the 300win that entered at the point of the hip and landed in the skin in the off side shoulder. Not a shot I wanted to take but the only one that was offered. I would never have taken that shot with a 6.5 but maybe with a 7 mag but I did not hesitate with the 300. A moments hesitation would likely have cost me that deer. My other point was availability of ammo. The 300 Win gives tons of options but then same can be said for the 7mm. It can't be said for the "boutique" calibers or my trusty 8mag.

 

[MagnumManiac]

You're right about the Europeans & the 6.5's. I'm 1/2 German & have a brother living in northern Germany. My father had an old old 6.5x55 Krag that my youngest brother & i both loved & wanted. He hunts primarily with a 30.06 but that Krag would have been perfect for him.

I am also half German, my family were from a very small town in Northern Germany. They emigrated in the 1850's to Australia. 3 brothers. There are lots of relatives as you can imagine in all that time.
My first rifle I bought myself when I was 16 was a sporterised Carl Gustav Mauser '96 in 6.5x55 Swede. I shot military comp rifle with that gun. For a 7.25" twist 4 groove military barrel, it was surprising how superbly that rifle shot. It would put the military match ammo we used, a 139g Spitzerglosch into one ragged hole with 5 shots @ 100.
We shot 200 metres, 300 metres and 500 metres from various positions, standing, prone and sitting or kneeling.

Cheers.

 

[gator378]

The 300wm rattles most peoples teeth. The 7RM does not. The 7rm is slightly flatter and less wind drift out to normal hunting range. Cost less to shoot, more fun and pleasant to shoot.

I went 300 Weatherby. more power and as flat shooting. Can shoot higher grain bullets. I also used steel dual scuba tanks for scuba diving. More air. I am nuts but sure having fun

 

[tooth doc]

I went 300 Weatherby. more power and as flat shooting. Can shoot higher grain bullets. I also used steel dual scuba tanks for scuba diving. More air. I am nuts but sure having fun

if 7mm was inferior to 300 win, why do you think the gent at gunwerks and best of the west who make a specialty out of long range hunting, and rifles for lr hunting, opted for 7mm rem almost exclusively for a long time. ballistic advantage, all things considered, i believe goes slightly to 7mm and 6.5 callibers in fast twist, long for cal bullets. but i am kind of splitting hairs here. ibeen to africa 23 times. , hunted canada and us for 50 years. usingmany rifles in lots of calibers. used to believe i needed bigger, faster. now i still have them all. from 22"s to 577 t rex and 700 ahr. i believe a good , deep penetration bullet, like barnes , or hammers ,or partition, in a rifle that shoots them accurately and in an adequate caliber will do all that is needed. dead is dead. case in point, in africa my ph scoffed at my daughters kimber in 260 rem for larger tough,plains game. after she put a 130 barnes tsx through both shoulders, lungs and heart of a 750 lb, zebra stallion he went 30 yds, they didnt question it. she also too red hartebeast, and a 52 in kudu full. both one shot kills. neither went 20 yds. use a good bullet, shoot alot, build accurate loads, put then kill zone, and you will be successful. have fun, own lots of guns if you wish. there is more than one way to skin a cat
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[Treeslug]

The slight bit of recoil reduction makes a huge difference, better bc bullets (for weight class), easy to get ammo and components

 

[UncleDano]

Why do any other cartridges exist when there is the .50 BMG?
Best question is what do YOU like?

 

[TxHeartShot]

When there exists the 300 WM? Just curious. Might need a nudge

Stop asking questions and get a 7mm STW...checks all the boxes (including rattling your teeth), fast, flat, great bullet selection, will handle anything in N. America with authority (except maybe big bears, search "brown bear cartridge"), plus the round looks sexy as hell...tall, slender, deadly like a beautiful woman.

 

[backwoodsshooter]

Why anything when we all know the 270win is the ultimate be all end all......

 

[Hela52]

Magnum Mania! The 7mm Rem Mag was introduced as a cartridge that shot flatter, was more versatile, and had more energy than the boring .30-06. And it didn't have a lot more recoil. People could shoot a MAGNUM and impress their friends. For many, the .300 Win Mag was just too much.

 

[BigNate]

If you want to understand you'll need to spend a little time shooting Berger 210gr vld hunters.
You'll probably have a different opinion after.

 

[Backcountry sports]

When there exists the 300 WM? Just curious. Might need a nudge

I have 3 7mm they are flat shooting and great knock down power at long range I always take 2 7mm when I go one for back up I leave at camp in case I fall I just get the other one and back out hunting both shoot 168 vld bergers so only take one ammo my vote is the 7mm 18 elk so far over the years of 20 of elk hunting