Why Not .270 WIn for LR?

[Lee Goodwin]

As a fair comparison, a 160 grain .277 bullet, G1BC 0.434 going 2700 fps has energy = 2213 at 100 yards.
A 140 grain 6.5 bullet, G1BC 0.5 going 2700 fps has energy = 2266 at the muzzle.

At 400 yards,
.277 (160 grain) would have energy =1334
6.5 (140 grain) energy = 1281
pretty close?

and at 400 yards, a .277 180 grain Woodleigh G1BC 0.5 would have energy = 1647
if you could get it going 2700 fps.

 

[H2odoctor]

It's kinda hard to go looking for a 6.5 something when my 270 Mt. rifle shoots MOA or better and drops whitetails out to 500 yds. with factory ammo.

 

[6MM06AI]

Long live the 270. It was my first and favorite. My boy just shot his first elk with his and dropped it on the spot. Barns 140 tsx at 3000fps in the chest walking straight at him

 

[xsn10s]

"it will keeeeel"

 

[corsair4360]

I have a left handed 270 WSM in a Model 70 Winchester, while not a traditional 270 works great. Waiting to get it back from the gunsmith and start working up loads for the elk hunt next year. Got back yesterday, have the scope remounted, now serious load development begins after I get the scope zeroed....

 

[Muddyboots]

My "fair " comparison would be bullet weight to bullet weight. The .270 WIN with the ELDX 145 grain (BC .536) bullet will hit 3,000fps out of 24" barrels. Even the Precision Hunter is listed at 2970fps. As such, at 500 yards, it still clocking 2178fps and has 1517ftlbs. The Nosler 150gr ABLR (BC591) at 2900fps is 2164fps and 1559ftlbs at 500 yds as well.

 

[Idaho Trecker]

Love the ol 270 win and the caliber! Might be why I have a 270 win, Sherman, and Sherman short. I've killed a lot with all of them. My ss and Sherman have 1:8 twist which I shoot 165 matrix and 170 Berger out of. Definitely a long range caliber. Just need some more love from the rifle manufacturers and bullet makers to spin up the twist rate on barrels and make some heavier bullets.

 

[brutis.270]

My favorite cartridge 270win has killed every one of my big game animals.same rifle 700bdl took elk at 700yds for my dad.I would like to build one with 26-28" barrel to get the most out of the heavier bullets. The cost to shoot is very appealing as my 338rum eats powder and bullet$ fa$t.

 

[JungleBoogey]

Upon my father's unexpected passing, I inherited a Remington BDL 270 Win which I believe he bought new in the 70's. He didn't hunt but loved shooting it on the range. When I've had the heart to take it out myself, I had some good days on targets out to 300 mtrs with 150 gr PPU Partizan on both bench and prone with the attached bi-pod. I'm ready to put my .308 aside and take it on my next deer hunt so I'm definitely anxious to hear what you guys have to say. Keep it coming because I'm reading it. Thanks.

P.S. He also left me a Universal M1 30cal (Paratrooper). Any ideas on what to hunt with it... if anything?

 

[JungleBoogey]

Sorry. Wasn't sure how to attach this photo...

 

[JungleBoogey]

Upon my father's unexpected passing, I inherited a Remington BDC Model 270 win which I believe he bought new in the 70's. He didn't hunt but loved shooting it on the range. When I've had the heart to take it out myself, I had some good days on targets out to 300 mtrs with 150 gr PPU Partizan on both bench and prone with the attached bi-pod. I'm ready to put my .308 aside and take it on my next deer hunt so I'm definitely anxious to hear what you guys have to say. Keep it coming because I'm reading it. Thanks.

P.S. He also left me a Universal M1 30cal (Paratrooper). Any ideas on what to hunt with it... if anything?

 

[Capt RB]

As a fair comparison, a 160 grain .277 bullet, G1BC 0.434 going 2700 fps has energy = 2213 at 100 yards.
A 140 grain 6.5 bullet, G1BC 0.5 going 2700 fps has energy = 2266 at the muzzle.

At 400 yards,
.277 (160 grain) would have energy =1334
6.5 (140 grain) energy = 1281
pretty close?

and at 400 yards, a .277 180 grain Woodleigh G1BC 0.5 would have energy = 1647
if you could get it going 2700 fps.

130 gr VLD Hunting 0.462 0.236 1.025 1:11″ 27501

130 gr Classic Hunter 0.490 0.251 0.964 1:10″ 27570

140 gr VLD Hunting 0.504 0.258 1.010 1:11″ 27502

140 gr Classic Hunter 0.528 0.271 0.962 1:10″ 27571

150 gr VLD Hunting 0.518 0.265 1.054 1:10″ 27503

170 gr EOL Elite Hunter 0.662 0.339 0.935 1:9″ 27575
Serria's 140 game changer is listed at .506
Nosler ABLR is listed at .591 runs closer to .530 in my gun@ 3110fps
Hornady 140 sst .495
145eldx .536
150IB .525
150 sst .525
Matrix 165 .650
All of these can be pushed faster than 2700fps THe 140 class can get to 3150+ in a 24" the 150 class I'm seeing 3110 I had ejector marks @ 3135 @75 degrees. If I coated them I can get to 3150.
It's in the 280 and 7 mag class which it really cannot match. A fast 6.5 has more higher bc options so it loses there too.
However for the short action standard boltface it matches up fairly well
Not a best option but it will hunt deer out to 800 with the proper bullet. The AI or sherman version in a tight twist can get it done the same as a 280AI can.

 

[johnnyk]

I've had a love affair with the .270 caliber since I started down this LR road years ago. My first big game rifle was a Ruger M77, .270 Win. If I did my part it never let me down and accounted for many whitetails, a few gaggle of crows and even a couple of groundhogs.
I have owned/traded/sold many other rifles and calibers over the past 35 years and there was a .270WSM in there that I really liked but traded off for what I don't remember now. I don't think I ever killed anything but paper with it!
Now I own the "Mr Olympia" of .270's; the .270 Allen Magnum, and it is truly an awesome round to load and shoot. The rifle is one of Kirby Allen's early builds and sports a 30" Lilja 8 twist, 3 groove barrel with DE muzzle brake. I am shooting the 170gn Berger and have it throttled back to 3300fps but it is capable of launching these and the 169.5gn Wildcats to 3500fps with ease.
I put the range of my latest whitetail (603yds) in my ballistic app and looked at the app tables and see that on target the Berger was doing over 2700fps and touched the deer in under .6 seconds with over 2800 ft lbs of smack. He really didn't hear the rifle go off. I saw him hit the dirt through the big Leupold. No, nothing wrong with a .270, no matter how healthy it is.

 

[stangfish]

Unbelievable that nobody has even thrown up the 280.