Why does it feel like everyone has too much money?

[Kmccord]

Have you considered building it yourself? You can purchase a custom action and pre-fit barrel, stock of your choice, bottom metal everything the way you want it.

 

[Bigdog425]

In all practical and legal driving situations a Honda Accord can match a BMW but one is "nicer". Some think nice is worth the extra cost and some don't, even though they can afford it.
Custom or high end guns may not shoot that much better than some factory guns, but they are "fine pieces of machinery" to which some are drawn while others don't care what a rifle does beyond its accuracy.
Cool that the world is diverse.

 

[Loggerdude]

There's a Lane 300 ultra on here now, no wait and a decent price. If your not in a hurry top builders guns come up with very light use at reasonable prices as do optics. I have never had a custom build, but not disappointed with any purchased to date. I also see they hold their value better than mass produced. Some are just range shooters. But my favorites are tools and have yet to be disappointed. I never had anything more than a Wetherby and Remington until 5 years ago. And you need to learn to reload or you will hate ammo prices. Some have boats, cars, extra stuff, I have some custom rifles as my hobby

 

[Nipper]

Man, I, am with you 100%. To each his own, some time I think we live in a socity that has more money than brains. Once I was reading a article about this new rifle. The auther on and on about how great is was, then came the price. My 400 dollar rifle will shoot as good as that high dollar rifle. makes me wonder how people hunted and shot game years ago. They did it.

Yup! They learned to shoot their firearms the only way they knew. Kentucky Windage,
Was a big part of the Luck, they endured

 

[shortgrass]

I bought my first rifle in 30-06 in my early 20's the savage 110c in 30-06 and it was deadly accurate out of the box. I was with a couple of army buddies and my grandfather shooting milk jugs at 500 yards. When I bought my rifle it came with 3x9 Bushnell banner scope and had paid $200+ for the rifle and scope back in 82. When I mentioned it out loud that I wanted a custom rifle my grandfather replied that rifle already does what most people can't do with a custom. Nothing changes except the weight of your wallet...it gets lighter. In other words he was saying if you can't shoot with an inexpensive rifle paying thousands more won't change the fact that you have not acquired shooting skills.

But, those who have developed their shooting skills and abilities can take advantage of a serious, 'one of a kind, built with the options they wanted, in the chambering of their choice' rifle. If a production made rifle is what you want, buy it! If a 'custom' is what you want, then fine. No rifle can make you a better shooter, but some can give the added confidence to become a better shooter. In the end, there's no need to be giving a guy "what for" because he chose to have a custom commissioned. It's his choice and his money to spend as he wishes. I take particular offence to the "more money than brains" comment, that "one3" made in post 36!

 

[Veteran]

I have an old beat up .243 Mossberg I bought at a gunshow in the 70's. It was used when I bought it. I've probably taken over 80 whitetails with it over the years, and over many seasons in multiple states. I think I paid $100 or so for it. The longest shot I ever took a deer with it was probably about 450 yards out in West Texas in wide open mesquite out by Rankin Texas. I quit using this rifle
in the early 2000's because I was hunting only in Illinois, and it was shotgun only there. I also bought a TC Encore muzzle loader for
the muzzle season there, and then I got a .300 win mag barrel for it which is what I have been shooting whitetails with more recently using 150 gr. bullets. It's probably got about 15 whitetails under its belt (its a belted magnum) now. So, it has a ways to go before it exceeds my old .243 that cost $100. You don't need an expensive rifle to take game, or to have fun......but I know you want an expensive rifle. I have one that I have only shot 1 box of ammo through to sight in the scope. The rifle cost multiple thousands when I bought it. Now its worth probably $5,000. Its just a museum piece. I can't take that rifle out in the woods and scratch it up!

Ever hear of a Sako Golden Anniversary 7 mm mag? Serial number 4, built 1972. If Sako comes out with a double Golden Anniversary model in 2022, then maybe I'll get one to go with it. Matching museum pieces...... Right beside my beat up ol Mossberg .243 --Lot more memories with that rifle.

 

[QuietTexan]

(Warning: joke inbound. don't let your knickers get twisted)

Don't we all have a 30-30 or grandpappy's Winchester or something similar that has been running since the dawn of time and was washed in the holy water of the Pristine Mountain Creek when the Noble Savage was unspoilt by the White Man and the Spirit of the Deer was hunted by Holy Men sent on a Quest By God who lived in Hunting Camps and melded the Spirts of the Animals with the Spirits of the Men and Lived Lives in Noble Purity?

Heck with that. Deer deserve to be murdered in full HD video recorded on a $1,400 phone using a $400 adaptor shot through a $3,600 scope on top of a $4,000 rifle in a $2,000 deer blind on a $10,000 a year lease, while eating $8 a bag corn out of a $1,000 feeder then will be hauled back to the $70,000 trailer pulled by the $80,000 truck in a $30,000 side-by-side, whereupon the Hunter will remove $1,000 in (needless) camo clothing and use a $400 knife set to carefully remove the head for a $400 trip to the taxidermist and then remove the meat for a $1,000 trip to the processor. Then he will relax and drink from a $400 bottle of scotch in a $100 leaded crystal glass before laying down in a Tempurpedic bed with heated pad and foot elevator and sleep the peaceful sleep of a Real Man. What to know why? Because we've moved past being savages with pointy sticks.

All y'all shooting rifles might as well turn into bowhunters if you want to be sanctimonious about it, once you pick up a boom stick we're all the same no matter what they cost. The bowhunter just has a nicer trailer because his bow was cheaper than a rifle.

 

[QuietTexan]

But, those who have developed their shooting skills and abilities can take advantage of a serious, 'one of a kind, built with the options they wanted, in the chambering of their choice' rifle.

Serious time now, but yes I agree. There comes a point where a hardware upgrade takes you to the next level. If someone doesn't need to be or want to be at that level, fine, but some of us are there and need to take the next step up to keep progressing.

A $400 rifle might shoot perfectly well, but when the time comes that it doesn't do what you need it to (if that ever comes), can that rifle be upgraded, repaired, or improved upon? My custom build will probably be a dozen different rifles over time, meanwhile my Ye Olde Browning A-Bolt II can't even be rebarreled without potentially pulling the threads out of the action. That rifle has zero value other than what it can do right now, my fancy lighter-wallet gun can turn into anything I want it to be for about the cost of a new off the rack rifle.

Reminds me of the old joke: I've had this here shovel for 50 years. Replaced the handle five times and the head six....

I take particular offence to the "more money than brains" comment!

The absolutism is a bit off-putting to be sure. IDK why intelligence has to be questioned because "My Situation" is different from "Your Situation". Meet people where they are, and do what Momma taught you: if you can't say anything nice, don't say it at all. Better yet keep your mouth shut because nobody wants to hear what you have to say anyways. Now go clean your room and take a shower, you're stinking up my house". Gotta love Moms. (that was another joke. Breathe, Karen, breathe. in and out. in and out.)

 

[Kmccord]

Amen Quiet Texan

 

[QuietTexan]

We all just need a shot of something good sometimes to remember that we're better than the Pointy Stick Brigade.

 

[MightyMatt]

Give us a call at Pierce Engineering.

517-321-5051

Great guys down there in Lansing! I've had a couple small projects done with them and Both times I stopped in to pick them up I hung around and BS'd with them. Answered all my questions and even showed me some of their new stuff and around the shop. That and they are Michiganders dosen't hurt either.

 

[imyourhuckleberry]

I understand that custom rifles have a niche and a role for its uses, after all rifles are just tools

But, those who have developed their shooting skills and abilities can take advantage of a serious, 'one of a kind, built with the options they wanted, in the chambering of their choice' rifle. If a production made rifle is what you want, buy it! If a 'custom' is what you want, then fine. No rifle can make you a better shooter, but some can give the added confidence to become a better shooter. In the end, there's no need to be giving a guy "what for" because he chose to have a custom commissioned. It's his choice and his money to spend as he wishes. I take particular offence to the "more money than brains" comment!

Shortgrass, every statement I made and typed I stand by because it is about me and not you or anyone else in this forum or the world. If you are offended rest assured that it was not me that offended you because I never made the comment "more money than brains" so take it else where.
As a matter of fact in post #39 I made a very succinct comment and I quote myself again "I understand that custom rifles have a niche and role for its uses, after all rifles are just tools."

I never make it a point to insult anyone online , that is cowardly, but will gladly do it to ones face. I am old school. I find forums to be a good and bad platform for learning the only problem is, are we all smart enough to know the difference.

 

[imyourhuckleberry]

Hey Tbell, thanks for the recommendation, can you give me the name of the company or website.

 

[Philward]

I decided just a few years ago that I wanted a nicer rifle, so I bought a Winchester M70 super grade 257 Roberts Cabela's 50th anniversary edition. I could do without the gold embellished Cabela's floor plate, but heck it looks nice and shoots pretty good, and it's the nicest gun I have. That's custom enough for me. I've had a few ideas over the years for customizing a rifle or 2, rem 760 20"barrel 338-06, plastic stock and 1-4 or 2-7 scope-Elk rifle for pnw woods. Get my r700 mountain rifle in 270 win fitted with 24" barrel, action trued, carbon stock. Mossberg 1550 30-06 rebarrelled to 280ai 24" and a nice take off wood stock from a Weatherby vanguard. Or just bite the bullet and order a Weatherby m5 Backcountry in same caliber. But I just make do with what I have because it all still works just fine. I guess the only real custom rifle I have is the R700 adl 7rm from the 60's that I transferred to a classic stock and made a bdl, then quick clip and bedded it, then changed to Remington factory dbm setup. Stripped the stock of any factory stain and finished with satin spar varnish. Shots well for me, has accounted for 3 Rosie's and a blacktail.

And so goes the ramblings on nightshift...