Which suppressor

[MachV]

GoosePilot said:

([So would be mad at tbac (or whatever brand) you spun on their 7" and then had to rezero when you spun on their 9" can? That's just totally unreasonable, It's not a manufacturing issue imho.]
Not a valid comparison. They are using the modularity as a selling point.
I would tot ally expect to re zero if I were putting on a totally different can.)

The silencer central boys sold me on useing the bannish 30 in 7" for hunting and 9" for the range. Fact is in its 7" configuration it's poi is off too far to zero the scope!
The odd thing is in 9" configuration its poi is very close to the Gemtec One, the Bannish 30 is direct threat and serviceable where the the Gemtec One is quick detatch and sealed.
I will say the Bannish in 9" reduces both noise and recoil better then the Gemtec One even with break quick attachments.
The Gemtec has thousnds of rounds through it from 223,6.5 Grendel,300blackout and 30-06 without cleaning issues though I will heat it up with the 223 after being on the 300blackout.

 

[GoosePilot]

I dont see how a person blames the can. Have you tried another 7" can vs another 9" can?

There is thread after thread on this site talking about developing loads and where bullets group based on barrel harmonics when a bullet exits. How barrel lengths and profiles play into this as well.

Now you expect poi to remain the same when you hang 7" and 11 oz of can on as when you hang 9" and 14 oz of can on. I just dont get that mentality.

 

[MachV]

Goosepilot

I get the poi change! Good luck living with 8" low and 8" left @ 25 yards! Sure the other 4 guns I run it on where not as bad but none stayed on a 2 foot target at 100 yards.
As per my mentality...... I have in fact run 7 and 9 Thunderbeast altras on the Tikka altralite. Funning thing happened= they both shifted the poi...... the 7 dropped 1.75" @ 100 but the 9 dropped a whole 1.85" ( oddly about the same as the 9" Bannish and Gemtec). Now that my friend is a far cry from 8" @ 25 yards!

 

[cjholler]

Seems this has turned into best caliber for all North American game! As with everything in life it is a give and take situation. It is asking a lot for something to cover every situation. This is making everyone give their own opinions nothing more or less, you will ultimately, have to decide which can fits your needs best. I assure you that if one can rein supreme, everyone on this site would say so but take everyone's opinion with a grain of salt, any can is better than shooting unsuppressed. All in all it comes down to what you decide is more important.

 

[ShawnO]

A friend I hunted with in Ireland (who is from Ireland) used a Swedish silencer with the added feature that allowed you to add or remove baffles. Is there a benefit to adding more baffles(sp?) to the silencer?

 

[Squatch]

I'm looking at a dead air sandman l if anyone has any experience with these. I actually put hands on a few and liked this one so I'm looking at it now. I'm looking towards the dead air the tbac 9 and the thunder chicken by q

I have the sandman ti and a nomad. I like that the nomad is a bit shorter. Both perform and are very accurate. I have nomad ti in jail.

 

[mcdil]

Okay, after even more exhaustive personal research, I'm considering the Nomad-Ti Xeno Precision Kit very hard. Here's why.

One, the kit does save money for some of the components I actually would need if I veered away from direct thread, basically the E-brake would be thrown in for free (I would need a Xeno brake and the adapter).

Two, I was almost dead set on a direct thread engagement, but this suppressor will definitely be getting moved around quite a bit, and the Xeno attachment is not only very well thought out, but a lightweight, short, robust option. I think it's superior to TBAC's CB mount, mostly due to the shoulder location versus the threads and the thread direction. I've spent a lot of my career on locking fastener attachments and threads in particular, and I have to applaud the efforts from Dead Air on this one. It also appears maybe a bit lighter than the CB, but that might be a wash. Otherwise, I'd just go with the standard Nomad-Ti by itself if I were sticking with direct thread, which I may still as it's cheaper, lighter, and shorter.

Three, I think for suppression, versus, length, weight, and all things considered, this particular suppressor fits the purpose very well from 243 Win to 300 PRC mainly for two purposes, bench testing and hunting.

Any reason those with experience would sway me away from the above, I'd definitely love to hear your thoughts. Seems like a sweet spot for my needs. Other close candidates were, TBAC's Dominus CB, and Silencer Central's Banish Backcountry. Thanks.

 

[Mike D Texas]

My only input that I will reiterate is that if I could start all over, all my bolt rifle cans would be direct thread.

 

[mcdil]

My only input that I will reiterate is that if I could start all over, all my bolt rifle cans would be direct thread.

Definitely still taking that heavily into consideration. Knowing that I will switch this can out to many different barrels, do you think that's a big deal with the standard barrel threads, or not really? I know you mentioned, in your scenario you'd have a can per gun, but that's not what I'll have. If you think protecting the barrel threads, and repeated on/off if properly taken care of is no big deal, I will stay that course. Lighter, shorter, cheaper.

Quick edit/add: do the barrel threads ever get carbon build up? If not, then I don't really see an issue staying with a direct thread as you suggest. That was one big advantage of the Xeno is that the threads of the on/off connection are sealed from carbon build up.

 

[Mike D Texas]

Definitely still taking that heavily into consideration. Knowing that I will switch this can out to many different barrels, do you think that's a big deal with the standard barrel threads, or not really? I know you mentioned, in your scenario you'd have a can per gun, but that's not what I'll have. If you think protecting the barrel threads, and repeated on/off if properly taken care of is no big deal, I will stay that course. Lighter, shorter, cheaper.

Quick edit/add: do the barrel threads ever get carbon build up? If not, then I don't really see an issue staying with a direct thread as you suggest. That was one big advantage of the Xeno is that the threads of the on/off connection are sealed from carbon build up.

I'd like to have a can for each gun but that's not the case currently. It's not uncommon for me to move a can around to 2-3 different guns in a day at the range.
I've not had an issue with carbon buildup where there is thread engagement.

 

[mcdil]

I'd like to have a can for each gun but that's not the case currently. It's not uncommon for me to move a can around to 2-3 different guns in a day at the range.
I've not had an issue with carbon buildup where there is thread engagement.

Perfect! That's what I wanted to know. Makes my decision easier for sure. DT it is!

 

[Huntnpack]

I'd highly recommend the Xeno attachment system
Over direct thread, especially if using on multiple rifles.

 

[mcdil]

I'd highly recommend the Xeno attachment system
Over direct thread, especially if using on multiple rifles.

Well, let's put it this way, if I still decide to go that route, it would be the one I'd use, and I'd most likely use the Xeno Xero to make it as light as possible while maximizing sound suppression, because it takes up no additional volume. I would think the Xeno adapter with the Xero is barely heavier than the direct thread adapter. A hair longer at about 1/2".

The one thing I like about a mounting adapter in general, is I can torque the adapter to the barrel, then that connection never gets touched again. There is something to be said for that, just don't know how much value it truly has with bolt and single shot guns as it's not something I'll be changing rapidly in a combat situation. I really like the locking shoulder though for the hand tightened connection. Makes that resistant to vibration loosening. With a direct thread, it's no issue as long as a wrench is used to tighten it appropriately, but from a convenience standpoint, the hand tightened version is nice, for sure. Nice, but not vital.

You guys both have me sitting on the fence, lol. The good news is I can start with the cheaper version if I prefer and switch later, or vice versa.

 

[SheepShapeAK]

Look at Dead Air silencers. With their Keymo breaks, you can use the same can on multiple guns.

I agree with Dead Air.

I have their nomad and it's sweet on the 300 PRC.