Where are all the supplies going?

Local powder shop got in 700 lbs not long ago. All gone in a couple days and they were limiting stuff to one or two lbs total. I grabbed an 8lb'r of Varget. Local box store gets in an ammo shipment about every week. Sat mornings before they open, the line is 50 - 100 yards long. Limit, 2 boxes each. Stuff is usually gone in a half hour...
 
Orange Dust said:
Ok boys and girls. I just left the Remington plant. Anyone want to know what the real deal is? This is what they told me, and I feel pretty good that they were being straight with me. Known these folks for a long time. They have no 12ga powder, they are missing a chemical they need to make primers, and are short on some other raw materials and components. All of it is sitting on 12 container ships moored off the coast of California. The US Government won't let them dock and unload. They have no idea when or if they will allow them to unload. I would assume there is also materials for other ammo manufacturers on these same boats since they use the same vendors a lot. This would explain a lot. Remember when Hodgdon couldn't get any powder for awhile during Obama when they pulled the same stunt and wouldn't let them unload? There was a big discussion of it with Tom at the World Championships that year. Everyone was blaming it on him.
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Why havent the companies waiting for these supplies publicly mentioned this so people can write their representatives? Why all the hush hush?
 
The firearms industry could yield a mighty sword. As far as gun control and manufacturing goes all they'd have to do is coordinate a little and refuse to sell to government and law enforcement entities. That's all it would take to nix a whole lot of legislation. I dont know why they don't. It seems like selling their products is in their best interest.
Other than certain websites I've not seen huge inflation from the commercial market, just a lack of product. So if they would be "stockpiling" a secret stash it seems all they'd have to do is start selling at significant markups everywhere we used to buy from. Occam's Razor applies to current events. It rarely fails.
 
Orange Dust said:
Ok boys and girls. I just left the Remington plant. Anyone want to know what the real deal is? This is what they told me, and I feel pretty good that they were being straight with me. Known these folks for a long time. They have no 12ga powder, they are missing a chemical they need to make primers, and are short on some other raw materials and components. All of it is sitting on 12 container ships moored off the coast of California. The US Government won't let them dock and unload. They have no idea when or if they will allow them to unload. I would assume there is also materials for other ammo manufacturers on these same boats since they use the same vendors a lot. This would explain a lot. Remember when Hodgdon couldn't get any powder for awhile during Obama when they pulled the same stunt and wouldn't let them unload? There was a big discussion of it with Tom at the World Championships that year. Everyone was blaming it on him.
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Just finished reading this https://www.freightwaves.com/news/new-video-shows-massive-scope-of-california-box-ship-traffic-jam
 
Orange Dust said:
Ain't that the truth. I never loaded for 9MM, could buy it for less than .22 Magnum up until a few months ago so why bother. Wish I had a 9MM kit now. I mostly use mine for bullet hoses anyway.
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I reload as a business if you knew what I have to pay just to keep myself in business you would be shocked. The primers alone are crazy, I'm a local guy small operation so I don't get the big boy discounts. If I can get small primers for 950.00 a case I'm good at this point. It's tough out there the only way I can justify this is each primer when I get it loaded turns in 80cents on the low side up to a 1.50 for hp ammo. I spent 40k in the last 2 weeks buying supplies but when I get done it will turn into 400,000 nice.
 
I found this interesting today. I shoot around 1000 rounds a year and I'm down to less then 1000 primers and have been on the hunt for the last 3 months and finally decide that I had to buy some of the over prices primers on gun broker but what was interesting is that I didn't get them from a individual, they came from a Sporting goods store (Four Seasons Sports Goldsboro North Carolina). So here is a business sell there product on gun broker for a 4 times the price to desperate me. :(
 
justinp61 said:
I managed to get four pounds of 4064 from Hodgdon. That will last me hopefully until things let up. Yesterday I got an e mail from them, apparently they are getting tons of inquiries as to where the powder is going or why isn't there more.

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Just received an sales flyer from a SG store with ammo and consumables on sale. Went to the web site and Lord behold it was just like Old Mother Hubbard's cupboard. Why would you have a sale with nothing to sell?
 
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