What is your hit probability on a 10" target at 1000 yards? First shot.
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lancetkenyon
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I shoot LR steel out to 1500 at least twice a month. Between 60-120 rounds across 4-6 rifles. I work hard at getting a great load worked up, then continually proving those loads. When we shoot steel, we start at either 1006 or 1009 yard steel. 12" plates, so just under 1.2MOA. It is rare to not have a 1st round hit.
You get me prone, and No to very low wind, I would say honestly, on MOA steel, with multiple rifles, I would be about 90%+ for a cold bore, cold shooter shot on a 10" plate @ 1000. I hate to say higher, because there is always the flukes.
With winds, the percentage would drop, depending on how much wind.
Practicing often at LR is really the only way to improve your odds. Good form is a must, good ammo is even more so. An accurate rifle (half MOA or better) is imperative. But KNOWING your rifle is a major factor as well.
While these are not necessarily cold shooter, they are all cold bore + 2 (or 3) on a 12" round.
You get me prone, and No to very low wind, I would say honestly, on MOA steel, with multiple rifles, I would be about 90%+ for a cold bore, cold shooter shot on a 10" plate @ 1000. I hate to say higher, because there is always the flukes.
With winds, the percentage would drop, depending on how much wind.
Practicing often at LR is really the only way to improve your odds. Good form is a must, good ammo is even more so. An accurate rifle (half MOA or better) is imperative. But KNOWING your rifle is a major factor as well.
While these are not necessarily cold shooter, they are all cold bore + 2 (or 3) on a 12" round.
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sea2summit
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Me? Probably better than 50%.
My daughter? Better than 75% assuming there's no crazy high winds. And that's why I just watch her shoot PRS and don't shoot against her
My daughter? Better than 75% assuming there's no crazy high winds. And that's why I just watch her shoot PRS and don't shoot against her
Jeff Heeg osoh
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Should hit it, I would be very disappointed if I missed under normal wind conditions, but anything can happen. Good times just pulling some trigger.
This was just doing some "testing of four different powder charges" in a 6 mph crosswind the other night. The ESs weren't bad the Red group being the best was 3038, 3040, 3038, 3039.
JH
This was just doing some "testing of four different powder charges" in a 6 mph crosswind the other night. The ESs weren't bad the Red group being the best was 3038, 3040, 3038, 3039.
JH
QuietTexan
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Left is a 6BR with a 105 Hybrid. Right is a 30-338 Lapua with a 250gn A-Tip. Both of these are 1000 yard capable rounds for their respective uses.
WEZ analysis and paper math says the one on the right is much more likely to make a first round impact at any particular wind/range estimation, but my real world results point towards the little 6mm having an extreme edge at 1000 yards over any of my boomers.
I'll make more cold-bore 10-rings with the 6mm (mainly because that's the exact thing the rifle was made to do), but the big boomer will make a whole lot more unknown/ lasered distance first hits by nature of being more forgiving of error stacking. I'd rather have the big guy anywhere other than on the square range. My ~75% cold bore 10-ring count would go down substantially if I had to run the 6mm on anything other than surveyed yard lines.
WEZ analysis and paper math says the one on the right is much more likely to make a first round impact at any particular wind/range estimation, but my real world results point towards the little 6mm having an extreme edge at 1000 yards over any of my boomers.
I'll make more cold-bore 10-rings with the 6mm (mainly because that's the exact thing the rifle was made to do), but the big boomer will make a whole lot more unknown/ lasered distance first hits by nature of being more forgiving of error stacking. I'd rather have the big guy anywhere other than on the square range. My ~75% cold bore 10-ring count would go down substantially if I had to run the 6mm on anything other than surveyed yard lines.
choprzrul
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50/50 chance.....either you will, or you won't.....
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tigerwerkes
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Did the guy saying it sure was quiet post his results? I don't mind saying that i don't have enough data to establish a meaningful percentage.
yobuck
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Well theres the hunting part, and then theres the shooting part. lol
Fact is that the 1000 yd benchrest shooters never go to the record target without first shooting a few sighter shots.
Many of them will fire a couple just to check their zero, then wait till the sighter time is almost over before firing a last shot.
That way they know if the wind has changed, and when the record target goes up, they will have all their shots down range as fast as they can send them. Some of them can send ten shots from a single feed rifle in about one minit.
So that should tell you how some of the worlds best shooters go about (ahem) reading the wind.
Now as for hunters, the smart ones will do the same thing if at all possible. The goal isnt to prove how good we are, it is to kill an animal as quickly and cleanly as possible.
Also remember that some animals run when a shot is fired and some dont, at least most of the time unless they have been hit.
A whitetail buck as a rule wont run, so a first round miss is actually a sighter shot.
Much of this first round hit thing is simply to boost the ego of the shooter.
Fact is at least when hunting it dosent matter so long as the animal is taken.
No doubt there will be those who take what ive said as an insult.
And thats OK, im just stating what goes on in the real world with successful long range hunters.
MOA gongs are our average practice standard, and sometimes even smaller, and depending on numerous factors of the day/shot - wind, rain, snow, mirage, rifle/caliber, etc, I would put it at 75-80% or higher. When hunting game or varmints and if we are able when winds are heavier or tricky, we will attempt to change our location and shooting direction to lessen the effects, but if not, a lot of years of practice and training come into play. Sometimes, that experience says "wait" for things to improve or attempt to find and approach to close the distance. Other times, it is a SWAG or gut feeling and let her fly.
gunner1stclass
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If I'm shooting my .338 lapua with 300 gainers with wind I Won't wont take a shot on game, on a target 80%. Two years ago same rig 827yards 1 elk 1 shot. light breeze from my back 3-5 mph I felt ok with this shot, best conditions you could hope for.
HARPERC
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Present chances zero.
