No kidding, but brass now and in the near future may become even harder to get. Maybe a good idea to stock up.
That's how I learnedBeing practical-minded, choose a cartridge with readily available Brass, dies, and reamers.
No downside to a std 280 with 160s at 2930 with IMR 7828 and Fed 210s.
280 AI is the easy button, formed brass can be hard to find, try forming your own out of Lapua 30/06 brass where you do not lose primer pockets at top-end accuracy nodes.
Another easy button is the std 6.5/06, and I am shooting the 129's at 3150 with R#26 into very, very tiny groups, CCI 250s. 127g Barnes long range was very easy to tune, .050 off the lands, 129g Nosler long range accubond, and 129g Hornady SP(a bullet that never lets you down). All the bullets in this weight shot so well with R#22, I never worked up a load with the 140-ish bullets.
The 6.5/06 seems to be an idiot-proof case to work with when tuning a load. I am running Win and PMC '06 formed cases in the 6.5/06.
270 Win brass would be a better choice to form brass with in regards to the 280AI and 6.5/06 AI, but you use what you have on hand. The formed neck is a tad shorter than the chamber, and the use of the Teslong bore scope allows you to see the carbon build up in the neck and easily remove it with a few twists of a bronze bristle brush of the appropriate size.
6/284 Lapua brass is a thing of the past, as of right now...Europe is preparing for war with Russia.
Russia is about to kick the war into another gear, more of our own reloading supplies will disappear, aka PRC brass....maybe.
Concerning Match kings, I lost a really good buck a few years ago during the rut. He stuck his head out on a power line, the range was 320 yards, chip shot for my 7 Mag's MV of 3150, 150g MK. Buck was knocked down, I saw the blood on his shoulder blade through the 6-24 scope. He got on his feet, and was never to be found after two days of looking.
I've been Lovin' the 7-08 for a number of years but lately got ahold of a 6.5 PRC that shoots lights out and kind of cool. I am having Fierce Firearms build me a 6.8 Western, which you might think about, especially if you throw the occasional Elk in the hunting mix. Like a 270 WSM but you can shoot up to 175 gr bullets--low recoil and muzzle blast, you can build it light, and it hits with the same energy at 500 yds as a .300 Win Mag.I'm looking to build a 600yd hunting rifle. I'll be starting with at Rem 700 LA left hand, trued. I'm planning on a 24" bartlein barrel. I'm not scared of wildcats or Ackley Improved either. I reload so, I'll be developing the loads. The current rifle is a 270win, but I'm thinking there is more bang for the buck in LR performance and aftermarket support. Most of my hunting is within 350yds or so, but I'm wanting a reliable option out to 600yds. This will double as range gun for some fun and probably run 2-300rds per year on the high side.
I'm leaning towards a 260rem or 7mm 08 in the LA. These guys not restricted to mag length can be pretty impressive.
I currently load for:
308, 7mm Rem mag, 7mm 08, 270 win, 223
And I have a 6.5 Creedmore on order for my son. We'll be loading for it as well.
Must haves:
-Long Range Support in brass and projectiles, at least in the manufacturing side. I'm not expecting everything to be in stock. (I'm not against fire forming good brass)
-Decent barrel life ~1800-2000rnd minimum
-Enough kinetic energy for deer at 600yds
Would like to haves:
-cross over powders or projectiles to current reloading stock
-Factory ammo options are nice, but not required.
-Something that is powder efficient
-No one ever complains about low recoil...
Feel free to add details of barrel length, twist, reamers, and load data.
Thanks very much for the info!
IMO, anyone shooting deer at 600+ is simply demonstrating that he doesn't know how to hunt.
My 7mm Mag is the bergara approach and it shoots lights out. I shoot the 168 bergers out to 1kyds. I took it on a Montana hunt this year and it did great. Reloading wise I don't want such a powder hog. I also know that I'll shoot a lighter cartridge more and practice is never a bad thing...You said you already loaded for a 7mm Rem Mag. Why are you out scrounging around for hamburger when you have prime steak in the freezer ? ? ? Or is your post just a sick joke on the rest of us ? I have had a 7 rem mag for 20 years and have not been tempted by anything that has come on the market in that time.
Looks like the first line says 7mm Rem Mag, Remington 700@VinceMule you posted all that with out mentioning what cartridge any of those loads are in.
Yes, the 270 win will be the donor actionYou didn't say exactly if you are using the 270 as the donor for the project, or if you just have an action available in your opening post.(didn't read the pages of opinions yet)
If you want a caliber that crosses a couple rifles 6.5 or 7mm would make sense. Of those the choice is obviously the 6.5-06 AI. Twist rate needs to be based on the bullets you want to use obviously, and I'd go to a 26" barrel to squeeze a bit more velocity out.
If you are willing to try a new caliber, an AI .25-06 with about a 1:8.5 twist would be my choice if it's a standard bolt. If magnum face I'd probably do a .25 PRC or 257 Weatherby also twisted for 130-135gr.
You got any ideas yet? What are you looking at now after all this info?Yes, the 270 win will be the donor action
I'm more confused now-LOL I really cant believe the volume of info... I'm trying to take it all in.You got any ideas yet? What are you looking at now after all this info?