quigley257
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TSS in 28 gauge
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Prairie Sasquatch
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My buddy and I did some testing last week in Saskatchewan with our 28 ga on decoying snow geese. We shot our limit with 6 steel, 4 steel and 3 steel black cloud. I was surprised how well 6 steel killed snow geese. I've found a load with at least 120 pellets to be very effective if the pellets will penetrate. 6 were good to 30 yds, 4 to 35yds and the #3 were good to 45 yards.
I imagine a 1 1/8 oz load of 18cc pellets would kill birds way out there. Could definitely drop down payload and still be very effective I think.
I imagine a 1 1/8 oz load of 18cc pellets would kill birds way out there. Could definitely drop down payload and still be very effective I think.
quigley257
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The load I'm using is a duplex of TSS and Bismuth. 1/2oz #8 TSS and 5/8oz #5 Bismuth at 1250 fps. I patterned some of it this past weekend and am impressed with the results. Resident pheasant opener is this coming weekend so I'll post results when we get back next week. Looking forward to roosters and walleyes!!
drabdrew
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Bullet225HO sucksss man. He claims he pressure tests his loads but uses a homemade pressure testing system. He was actually claiming that he was able to get a 1/2 ounce steel 1/2 ounce TSS duplex 28g load and it was north of 20k overpressure....extremely dangerous and making people pay for it. That load tested safe pressure on his DIY tester but over twice max pressure when someone else sent the load in to be tested. He shows you loads that pattern well to get people to buy them but uses lead wads(which the cushion is the only reason they test under pressure) that will destroy your barrel. You cannot use any gulani wads or any of the HV series for TSS its been proven by many people you will get scrub through and destroy your forcing cone. He constantly shats on people for using anything over 1/2 tss or tss/bis duplex in the forums and facebook groups but then posts loads like this to sell.
quigley257
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I've not heard any of this before. All his load data comes with printouts from BPI labs showing all velocity and pressure parameters.
drabdrew
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He probably changed it up a bit after that super dangerous load he got caught pushing. Figured he could have a lawsuit soon I recon. Put a foul taste in the mouths of everyone across multiple shotgun hunting forums. His posts barely get responses now
quigley257
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A follow-up report on the TSS loads. The 28 gauge duplex load of 5/8oz of #5 Bismuth over 1/2oz of #8 TSS is definitely a rooster killer! The loads patterned well and killed roosters well. I also loaded up some straight TSS 7/8oz loads for my 12 gauge using BPIs data. At 1625 FPS they are absolute hammers on pheasants. I shot one hard crossing rooster at a bit over 55 yards that looked like he was swatted out of the air with an invisible club! Pricey loads for sure, but the results can't be argued. TSS just flat out kills birds like no other non-toxic shot. Pictures of the trip are in the upland bird section... https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/surf-n-turf-2024.369355/#post-3201385
drabdrew
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Nice. That 28g load might be a little overkill. Roosters are huge and you dont need much more than 95 pellets in a 30" circle to have enough density. You can run 1/2-5/8 ounce and save some money. Nicer on the shoulder too. Its crazy what TSS makes the small bores do. I made some absurd long shots with 3/8 ounce TSS loads in my .410 last year.
quigley257
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What kind of load data are you using? Is it published/pressure tested? I know some use #9 for ducks but the pellet count is insane with TSS even a 1/2 oz is over 175 pellets. I'm still learning this TSS stuff. The 7/8oz loads of #7 that I loaded for my 12ga absolutely hammer the roosters. I would be interested in trying some of the lighter payloads in the 28ga if I can find good data. 1/2oz of #8 would be 126 pellets. In the data that I got for the duplex load of Bismuth/TSS it is said that the Bismuth actually helps the TSS to open up quicker. I only patterned it at 35 yards but the results were very good when shot with an IC choke tube.
drabdrew
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I have a ton of tested data from myself and various friends. 1/2, 5/8, 3/4, 7/8, 1 ounce TSS in 28g. I used 9.5 TSS all last year out of my .410 in a 3/8 and 1/2 ounce load. Ive settled on #7 15g/cc in 12 and 20g, #8.5 18g/cc in 28 and #9.5 in .410
