The problem with ammo and component supplies, some new facts

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The NRA has become one of gun owners worst enemies. They no longer fight to preserve the second amendment, but have actually become advocates for gun control. They just signed on to support Feinstein's latest attack on second amendment rights. I'll never support the NRA sgain, and will advise that no one else does.
Sad that people keep peddling this Anti NRA garbage and even worse that people seem to want to blindly accept it as fact.

NRA Response to Senator Feinstein

THURSDAY, JANUARY 24, 2013


Fairfax, Va. – Senator Feinstein has been trying to ban guns from law-abiding citizens for decades. It's disappointing but not surprising that she is once again focused on curtailing the Constitution instead of prosecuting criminals or fixing our broken mental health system. The American people know gun bans do not work and we are confident Congress will reject Senator Feinstein's wrong-headed approach.

I'd suggest strongly finding better sources of information on the NRA.
 
The NRA has become one of gun owners worst enemies. They no longer fight to preserve the second amendment, but have actually become advocates for gun control. They just signed on to support Feinsteins latest attack on second amendment rights. I'll never support the NRA sgain, and will advise that no one else does.
Curious as to your source. I may not trust Wayne LePiere, but I still support the NRA.
 
Curious as to your source. I may not trust Wayne LePiere, but I still support the NRA.
Using the NRA as a whipping post is nonsense. The work they have done for gun owners and our rights cannot be belittled. The years and years of support for the shooting sports has kept them alive through many troubled years of objection and unfair court rulings. For those who believe that the NRA's top executives (which is what they are) do not deserve the salary and perks that they endowed on themselves I say GET OVER IT! We need them more now than ever during this suppressive administration's agenda.
 
Based on some discussions we've had recently today I picked up the phone and called someone I know at Vista Outdoors. One thing my career provided me was an unlimited list of contacts in the industry and once in a while I break out my black book.

We spent a little over an hour on the phone and I learned a whole, whole lot.

Some basics everyone is interested in.

As I suspected ammo sales nationwide are at record highs. Federal alone has seen a 40% increase in each of the last two years.

As I knew, when it comes to components he confirmed that yes, there's a priority list. First on that list is their own factory ammo, next comes their committed contract buyers for whom they also provide ammo. Following those are the huge vendors like Cabelas/BP, SW Midway, Brownell's and Midsouth.

The only thing that makes it to the shelves for reloading components are overruns and excess so from primers to powder to bullets reloaders are at the bottom of the pile. The one exception to that is the powders that none of their contracts or their own proprietary ammo uses but of course, those are the last to be produced.

Because of this huge increase in customer demand they have also changed how they produce. Until the last few years they'd run say 2 million rounds of a given bullet, at a given weight on a regular schedule, same with ammo that way there was a fairly constant supply of a broad range of ammo and components.

Due to demand however if they've got six million cases and one type of bullet in a given cartridge, they'll run six million of that specific combo because it's already sold no matter how much they produce. Once that run is done, they'll move to the next in that same line if they have the components, if not they'll retool and run something else until they run out of components and on and on.

Yes, there are some supply chain issues which can sometimes affect the production schedule but if they are lacking one thing they just produce something else and then will rescheduled that skipped run once the necessities are available.

Bad news. I was told not to expect any large runs of Magnum Primers to start showing up on the shelves for the next 12-18 months as they simply cannot produce them fast enough.

Good news, they are very soon going to be doubling their primer production capacity. They are however so far behind on contract orders for both loaded ammo and primers it's still likely to take at least 12 months to get caught up.

We covered me topics and some of these in a more in depth way so feel free to ask questions. If I have an answer I'll provide it.
Well Said. Thanks for the time you spent talking and writing this information.
 
Using the NRA as a whipping post is nonsense. The work they have done for gun owners and our rights cannot be belittled. The years and years of support for the shooting sports has kept them alive through many troubled years of objection and unfair court rulings. For those who believe that the NRA's top executives (which is what they are) do not deserve the salary and perks that they endowed on themselves I say GET OVER IT! We need them more now than ever during this suppressive administration's agenda.
Can not or will not disagree with you about perks or salary for executives. I said before, I will always back the NRA.
 
Sad that people keep peddling this Anti NRA garbage and even worse that people seem to want to blindly accept it as fact.


I'd suggest strongly finding better sources of information on the NRA.
I have found plenty of sources and the NRA definitely backs Feinstein. I'm done with the NRA. They continually backslide on every issue when it comes to gun control. They have lost a lot of members over the past few years because of their unwillingness to stand up for the second amendment.
 
Using the NRA as a whipping post is nonsense. The work they have done for gun owners and our rights cannot be belittled. The years and years of support for the shooting sports has kept them alive through many troubled years of objection and unfair court rulings. For those who believe that the NRA's top executives (which is what they are) do not deserve the salary and perks that they endowed on themselves I say GET OVER IT! We need them more now than ever during this suppressive administration's agenda.
Support them if you want, but I'll never donate another penny to them.
 
Using the NRA as a whipping post is nonsense. The work they have done for gun owners and our rights cannot be belittled. The years and years of support for the shooting sports has kept them alive through many troubled years of objection and unfair court rulings. For those who believe that the NRA's top executives (which is what they are) do not deserve the salary and perks that they endowed on themselves I say GET OVER IT! We need them more now than ever during this suppressive administration's agenda.

The issue is that other groups such as the GOA are getting more done in the courts with significantly less funding and no shady executives like LaPierre spending ten of millions of dollars in donations on frivolous stuff instead of using it to expand gun rights. If the NRA had the tenacity that the GOA has then people would be more willing to donate to them.

They do a lot to support the shooting sports but on the legal side they aren't doing much to help us out.
 
Post em if you got em….
Regardless the NRA is and has been a good cause for many years .If the NRA goes we go , nothing is perfect the good out ways the bad . I support the NRA and always will .like anything if there's something wrong then let's fix it we have a strong voting block , don't just pick your marbles up and go home .
 
From the the topic. Of phrases to live by. If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. My old supervisor was right. We need to stick together, be supportive of each other and our sport. The one thing that they are very good at is splitting us up. Attack one thing at a time (archery hunting, rifle hunting, bird hunting, AR type guns, pistols that hold to many rounds, etc). They are satisfied to take things away from us a little at a time.
 
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