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[Alibiiv]

If we were all closed minded we'd be stuck shooting Interlocks, core lockt, and maybe Nosler partitions and other bullets designed half a century ago or more that don't quite fit our needs today particularly in the LR world.

Options are good and competition is great. It's what forces existing companies to innovate and put out a better product.

Nosler partition bullets started their life in the shooting world in 1947. I still have some 140gr, .264 caliber bullets that I used in my 6.5 Remington magnum, at the then time Remington 600 with the vent rib on the barrel. I shot a 150 pound doe at something like 286 paces, frontal shot, destroyed that doe's insides; DRT!!! The bullets that I have show the lathe tool marks on them. I suspect that Nosler used a screw-machine with a skive tool to make their jackets. I'm still working on the Hammer bullets that I got for my last bear hunt in my Whelen, not about to change until I try the Hammers and then go from there. This is a good thread, glad it got posted.

 

[Muddyboots]

The other thread about the CBB bullets, now that is when my BS meter pegged.

I was a bit tired when I read this Brad, I thought you said CBD bullets and I was all in. Thinking how thoughtful for a CBD bullet to provide anti-inflammatory measures on pass through. That should really please the anti crowd don't you think?

 

[John Klingenberg]

The West side and U.P. are.....not sure about that east side though.....
From about Lansing over???

NE Lower is pretty good. We have a lot of hunters/shooters up this way. We have Sage International a few miles down the road and machine shop in town that makes gas blocks and AR bolts.

 

[Alibiiv]

I did. You were out of line there and you remain so.

There are other forums to pick fights on, this isn't one of them.

This is an educational piece and it isn't BS!!! FEENIX is a great guy who possesses a lot of information and he is a wealth of information. He's the one who got me started with the .270 Ackley Improved and helped me get into fireforming brass. Now the the educational part of this reply!! If one were to click on a person's profile, there's a drop down menu and just below the profile photo there's a box that reads, "IGNORE", and that's all there is to it!!! If someone decides they want to act like the "southbound end of a northbound horse" that is the easiest solution; and I have done with this guy!!! I call it earning the "ignore button" and.......it isn't worn on one's lapel!!!

 

[GSPRunner]

Probably them bubbas that shoot game at longer ranges than I will attempt. BC plays a factor way out there. My long range hunting is a 500yd poke. BC consideration within this/my range takes last chair to lethality.

I learned this word 20yrs ago called, "Egocentrism" basically you think everyone should act according to your world view and not take into account others. So yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly!

I have read this similar sentiment a few times by people that hunt with low BC bullets, and I can't wrap my head around it. Even if your max self imposed range on game is 500 yards, why wouldn't you shoot the highest BC bullet you can? A stiff wind can move a bullet a material amount even at 300 yards. Shooting across canyons where you get swirling and inconsistent winds or even flat land where wind gusts can be 30 or 40 mph on a good day. Just seems silly to hunt with a low BC bullet when there are so many proven high bc hunting bullets on the market.

 

[greenejc]

They priced themselves out of my market. Glad there are other options in the wonderful world of variety and innovation!

Mine, too. I do like them, though. They look like they might be the thing to have on an Alaskan hunt, where price wouldn't matter that much. I'd like a 160 to 165 grain bullet, though. I'll still use Speers since they have a high BC and I can get about 200 for the cost of their 50. But if I had the money for high-dollar hunts, the cost of the bullet wouldn't matter, and they look really good.

 

[Muddyboots]

Is Michigan a free state?

Free from what? Idiots in charge? No way! Not a free work state either.

But you can get CPL if you have not been a bad boy doing anything. SO far that process has been reasonable and is aligned with 39 states with reciprocity (holy cow I spelled that right without spell check!).

 

[greenejc]

There's a BC listed for the 153gr .308 that was calculated by shooting at 967 yards. That's just the BC I calculated from bullets fired from 1 gun on one trip out, but it's somewhere to start. I think the actual BCs people see will rival whatever else is out there in the same weight range.

I have a few more of the pre-production 153s left from the first batch Mark was generous enough to let me play with a while back. I've had them loaded up for a few months, but work and life have decided to cut into my shooting time lately. I'm hoping to get out and try to replicate my results now that I have a little more time.

Good luck. Keep us posted on how it does.

 

[Calvin45]

I have read this similar sentiment a few times by people that hunt with low BC bullets, and I can't wrap my head around it. Even if your max self imposed range on game is 500 yards, why wouldn't you shoot the highest BC bullet you can? A stiff wind can move a bullet a material amount even at 300 yards. Shooting across canyons where you get swirling and inconsistent winds or even flat land where wind gusts can be 30 or 40 mph on a good day. Just seems silly to hunt with a low BC bullet when there are so many proven high bc hunting bullets on the market.

I get what you're saying but also I don't see it that way anymore. Impact velocity counts for a lot as well and inside 300 or 500 yards a light mono driven to warp just plain hits different.

 

[greenejc]

This is an educational piece and it isn't BS!!! FEENIX is a great guy who possesses a lot of information and he is a wealth of information. He's the one who got me started with the .270 Ackley Improved and helped me get into fireforming brass. Now the the educational part of this reply!! If one were to click on a person's profile, there's a drop down menu and just below the profile photo there's a box that reads, "IGNORE", and that's all there is to it!!! If someone decides they want to act like the "southbound end of a northbound horse" that is the easiest solution; and I have done with this guy!!! I call it earning the "ignore button" and.......it isn't worn on one's lapel!!!

Since you're shooting the AI, you ought to check out the /270 Gibbs. I was first introduced to it on a deer hunt in Utah in 1969.

 

[Window]

Well Ed these are in my backyard and didn't know about them! Thanks

Gentlemen, I've read through this entire post and obviously there are some heartfelt responses. I believe we're all on the same team here and as there are different perceptions and desires based on needs and what's been first hand experienced. We all face a much larger battle in the world right now with supply/demand, countless other issues and more importantly our freedom to continue to do what we all love. I appreciate you all and your infinite wisdom.

 

[asd9055]

Mine, too. I do like them, though. They look like they might be the thing to have on an Alaskan hunt, where price wouldn't matter that much. I'd like a 160 to 165 grain bullet, though. I'll still use Speers since they have a high BC and I can get about 200 for the cost of their 50. But if I had the money for high-dollar hunts, the cost of the bullet wouldn't matter, and they look really good.

I have not tried any and have no opinions on any...I just want to focus on "price" since so many people seem to focus on it.
IF I am loading to shoot....as long as two bullets are performing to the range I am shooting, I will choose the cheapest.
IF I am a loading to hunt, and I am not talking shooting yotes or pigs....I am talking hunts that in one way or another (time and money) cost,
I want the BEST performing bullet. The bullet price difference is what? $1/per round? Need 20 for the hunt and 30 to dial it in? $50 difference. Lets say they are gold plated, $100 difference. What is that compared to the real cost of the hunt? A week off, maybe long drive or fly out of state, maybe a guide maybe not...cost of the bullet is nothing.
That is my opinion...we all have choices...than God for that, and free enterprise.

 

[JMW67]

I have read this similar sentiment a few times by people that hunt with low BC bullets, and I can't wrap my head around it. Even if your max self imposed range on game is 500 yards, why wouldn't you shoot the highest BC bullet you can? A stiff wind can move a bullet a material amount even at 300 yards. Shooting across canyons where you get swirling and inconsistent winds or even flat land where wind gusts can be 30 or 40 mph on a good day. Just seems silly to hunt with a low BC bullet when there are so many proven high bc hunting bullets on the market.

There are two camps on this one and I stay in both for 500 and in I do like the light weight high speed absolute hammer less time in the air = less wind drift and less drop, over 500 I like the heavy high BC berger, weight and BC takes over at this point in my mind and were I hunt 90 percent of your shots will be under 400 When I do go west I use the heavy for cal. bergers

 

[greenejc]

Because snake oil has been sold for a very long time.

BFD, snake oil has been sold for a long time. However, a new company and bullet isn't snake oil. Just because you like one brand doesn't mean you need to try to sell it over another that hasn't gotten started yet. Sit back and see what they do, first. All Feenix did was tell about a new product, which may be good and may not, but give it a chance. Someone gave Barnes, Hammer, and a number of other bullet makers a chance. Show them courtesy and let time determine if their bullet works.