I only know what I see in the news......that is why I was asking...The West side and U.P. are.....not sure about that east side though.....
From about Lansing over???
I only know what I see in the news......that is why I was asking...The West side and U.P. are.....not sure about that east side though.....
From about Lansing over???
Broad brush strokes here. Glad you found out what is acceptable for you.This is the problem with hammer bullets supporters. You guys get sooo defensive. Why come at Ed for educating people on their options? He never bashed your beloved Hammer bullets. I mentioned that I tried them a while back and they weren't my cup of tea - the reason was the BCs. They were nowhere near as good as was advertised. Since this is a long range hunting site, I always chuckle when they are mentioned on here and continue to be blown away at the cult like following. I mailed the remaining hammers I had to a buddy in Cali.
Some grammar please. Paragraph sentences are hard to filter out the message.I don't agree. He made a statement that I dont totally agree with but I did not see it as a fight. I saw it as having some merit based on his background. I got roughly a similar response form feenix even after stating how I saw benefits to the bullet but finding some of it hard to believe. I've got a lot of respect for both you and feenix Here but even by his own standards he should never try anything but Berger and the high bc they carry.
I am a skeptic at heart and admitted that I would take a look at any bullet I think my fit for what I need. But left that thread a little dumbfounded that I shouldn't be able to be a bit skeptical of claims. Same as I was with hammer. It took a long time before I finally tried them.
Again I may be off base here Feenix which probably got started by quoting a post I may be should not have and just commented on my thoughts alone. I've been wrong many times in my life and I will gladly own them if my experience changes my opinion. That's all I am trying. To say in these threads is my initial opinion and thoughts nothing more so I'll leave it at this and move forward with productive conversation. Kinda went off the rails in a way I regret
Them Yoopers are some proud and fun folks! They kept calling me FIB though. Fantastic Illinois Brother. So nice of them!The West side and U.P. are.....not sure about that east side though.....
From about Lansing over???
I always chuckle when I hear this as well Hammers aint for everyone but I just find it odd that thousands of folks find the advertised BC to be really close and have no problems, But I'm just a supporter who's never tested anythingThis is the problem with hammer bullets supporters. You guys get sooo defensive. Why come at Ed for educating people on their options? He never bashed your beloved Hammer bullets. I mentioned that I tried them a while back and they weren't my cup of tea - the reason was the BCs. They were nowhere near as good as was advertised. Since this is a long range hunting site, I always chuckle when they are mentioned on here and continue to be blown away at the cult like following. I mailed the remaining hammers I had to a buddy in Cali.
Once again, I think it is awesome that there are so many options out there for us to choose from and people like Ed willing to share that information with us.
Questions for those who hunt in California, do you have to use leadfree in muzzle loaders as well?
Has Litz got ahold of these CBBs yet? Anybody confirmed the BC?I always chuckle when I hear this as well Hammers aint for everyone but I just find it odd that thousands of folks find the advertised BC to be really close and have no problems, But I'm just a supporter who's never tested anything
Has Litz got ahold of these CBBs yet? Anybody confirmed the BC?
Heck I use Barnes 250-290 solids in IL. Perform fantastically!Questions for those who hunt in California, do you have to use leadfree in muzzle loaders as well?
Dang it. This is the Texas bullet thread, not the Montana CBB thread. Anyways, I have the Litz book. BCs are listed for a number of Hammers.Considering they were developed for gas guns, I doubt Brian has messed with them. And didn't he get inconclusive data with Hammers anyway?
He results were conclusive from what I remember, just not well received by some.Considering they were developed for gas guns, I doubt Brian has messed with them. And didn't he get inconclusive data with Hammers anyway?
Yes no lead in California. Thanks to all the guys posting about non lead bullets . I am finding a lot of different companies on here.Questions for those who hunt in California, do you have to use leadfree in muzzle loaders as well?
Probably them bubbas that shoot game at longer ranges than I will attempt. BC plays a factor way out there. My long range hunting is a 500yd poke. BC consideration within this/my range takes last chair to lethality.He results were conclusive from what I remember, just not well received by some.
I learned this word 20yrs ago called, "Egocentrism" basically you think everyone should act according to your world view and not take into account others. So yes, I agree with you wholeheartedly!Good to have options. As a single offering is not for everyone & may not be the best for an individuals use.
Having options helps me to reaffirm my decision on my bullet choice.
These may fit for some users.