Short barreled 28 Noslers?

[doug2080]

the 28 nosler is an amazing round and was built with a 26+ barrel in mind to get the most velocity possible with the heaviest bullets possible. With the amount of case capacity it has I don't think you will ever be able to achieve a 100% burn rate of almost any powder in a 20-22 inch barrel without seeing excessive pressures. I can see how a shorter rifle in certain hunting situations would be handy and I'm not a fan of suppressors but see the draw but just think they're ugly and clumsy which is just my personal preference but to each his own. Much better cartridge choices for what you're wanting but again to each his own.

 

[fseaman.js]

First i have heard of a mandated "running" hunt

Not what I said, I said it was the rules. Private land hunts can have "extra" on them by the land owner or lease holder. If I wasn't willing to take a running shot they didn't want me there.

 

[fseaman.js]

the 28 nosler is an amazing round and was built with a 26+ barrel in mind to get the most velocity possible with the heaviest bullets possible. With the amount of case capacity it has I don't think you will ever be able to achieve a 100% burn rate of almost any powder in a 20-22 inch barrel without seeing excessive pressures. I can see how a shorter rifle in certain hunting situations would be handy and I'm not a fan of suppressors but see the draw but just think they're ugly and clumsy which is just my personal preference but to each his own. Much better cartridge choices for what you're wanting but again to each his own.

True, 26" was the target barrel length.

Do you have a 28 Nosler?

 

[Huntaddict]

Suppressor says otherwise.

Yeah when using it...without - dragons live!

 

[WeiserBucks]

Much better cartridge choices for what you're wanting but again to each his own.

What cartridge would you choose to send a bullet with a BC of .650+ at 3175 FPS out of a 22" barrel?

 

[Huntaddict]

Not what I said, I said it was the rules. Private land hunts can have "extra" on them by the land owner or lease holder. If I wasn't willing to take a running shot they didn't want me there.

private land hunts can set rules...sure. Its their land. Say again, first I have ever heard of the rule that if you are NOT willing to take a running shot, you cannot hunt there.

You stated, "I took 2 running elk with it. It was a running hunt, those were the rules. My choice of projectiles was influenced by that. I used 185 TTSX going fast. Both DRT but one was not "perfect" and required a follow up shot."

 

[doug2080]

What cartridge would you choose to send a bullet with a BC of .650+ at 3175 FPS out of a 22"

I assume you're talking 180+ and while I'm not saying it impossible I will say it's unlikely without running into pressure issues in a 22" barrel. The 28 nosler that I'm running the 195's in I am maxed out at 3242 fps. That being said every rifle is different. All im saying is that it is counter productive to use such a massive amount of powder without being able to use it to its full potential. And I am no expert on suppressors by any means but have heard of them cracking and "wearing out" over time especially when shooting them with large magnums. And with the amount of unburnt powder that it will likely produce I would assume it will foul much sooner?.

 

[WeiserBucks]

I assume you're talking 180+ and while I'm not saying it impossible I will say it's unlikely without running into pressure issues in a 22" barrel. The 28 nosler that I'm running the 195's in I am maxed out at 3242 fps. That being said every rifle is different. All im saying is that it is counter productive to use such a massive amount of powder without being able to use it to its full potential. And I am no expert on suppressors by any means but have heard of them cracking and "wearing out" over time especially when shooting them with large magnums. And with the amount of unburnt powder that it will likely produce I would assume it will foul much sooner?.

Your assumptions are not correct. Unless one has actual experience with a big short barreled magnum with the appropriate suppressor it's just guessing.

It's not efficient, it's not the same as a long barrel, it's not the best choice for everyone. But it's absolutely the best choice for some people.

 

[doug2080]

Your assumptions are not correct. Unless one has actual experience with a big short barreled magnum with the appropriate suppressor it's just guessing.

It's not efficient, it's not the same as a long barrel, it's not the best choice for everyone. But it's absolutely the best choice

Not trying to argue with you. I'm just saying if the goal is to shoot the large high bc bullets at high velocity's it's not the way to go. Shorter barrel rifles in MY experience are primarily used when hunting denser foliage areas where long shots are not required USUALLY, and therefore would not require the heavy long high bc bullets at high velocities. Which is where other more efficient calibers come into play like the WSM family or even the 6.5 PRC that won't be effected as much as the nosler family of cartridges on a shorter barrel. But like I said TO EACH HIS OWN….OP asked for thoughts on it…this is mine….

 

[FrogFire7]

I would caution the OP that they may need a new suppressor as well- 28 Nosler is on the upper end of what many are rated for, AND that is often with a specified minimum length barrel. Just something to keep in mind! Not that a new suppressor is a bad thing

As far as the original question... Sure you will lose velocity. If you are set on reloading components and want to keep running the 28, I say go for it! The pros and cons balance is completely up to you!

 

[WeiserBucks]

Not trying to argue with you. I'm just saying if the goal is to shoot the large high bc bullets at high velocity's it's not the way to go. Shorter barrel rifles in MY experience are primarily used when hunting denser foliage areas where long shots are not required USUALLY, and therefore would not require the heavy long high bc bullets at high velocities. Which is where other more efficient calibers come into play like the WSM family or even the 6.5 PRC that won't be effected as much as the nosler family of cartridges on a shorter barrel. But like I said TO EACH HIS OWN….OP asked for thoughts on it…this is mine….

I hear you man. But suppressors are a thing and overall length becomes an issue. What else are you going to use that competes with a big 7 at equal barrel length?

 

[WeiserBucks]

Since everyone else is just guessing, here's this year's girly elk. 845 yards, 4.6 MILs elevation and 2000 FPS impact velocity with a big 22" 7mm. No assumptions.

 

[86bowhunter]

Why not? You lose velocity, but you only need to add a few clicks when dialing. If it makes a rifle more useful to you, then go for it!

I'll play with powders to gain back a little bit of what I'll lose.

 

[86bowhunter]

It would appear that we have gone off course of the original post.
Speculation is just that, and it's opinion based off of a number of other things that aren't a 28 nos with a 20-22" barrel. We all know that a longer barrel works best for magnums with heavy bullets.

But that's not the question. The question is what are guys running shorter barrels actually seeing?