doggonner
Active Member
properly bedded action is a good place to start..no stress points then good barrel with good bullets and a cartridge known for easy tuning. ask me how I know this..it's a rabbit hole sometimes
Typically if your rest is solid vertical stringing is a sign of a load issue, horizontal is shooter / wind. You need to shoot that load again to be sure
I have been a long time member here but honestly not a long time long range shooter. My local range for many years only allowed 300 yards shooting and it was often crowded. Well My wife and I moved to our own property a few years back and I finally cleared out a 600 yard range. How do you know when working up loads if it is you, the weather (wind and such) or the load if your groups are not the greatest? My shooting range is not too effected by wind (most of it is a clear cut path through woods) so I think I can eliminate that from the equation. I would say maybe 100-200 yards of it is slightly open to winds. So for example, I recently worked up a load for my 28Nosler. At 100 yards it shoots between .6- .75MOA at 100 yards. I had 3 rounds left and said screw it im shooting 600 lol. at 600 I shot an 8 inch group with those 3 remaining loads. 2 of the hits were within 4 inches of each other and strung vertically for the most part but the other hit was in between the two height wise but was about 8 inches left. So for an in-experienced long range shooter, how would I know if I pulled that shot, or maybe the wind caught it or maybe there is an issue with my rifle system (bedding issue) or a problem with my load? I understand to truly know I likely need to shoot many more rounds, but im just trying to limit the rounds thrown down the tube to hopefully preserve the barrel. I do not intend to shoot this rifle a ton so would like to keep the tube as long as possible. I will never be hunting to 600 (400 yard max where I hunt) so really it is not too much of an issue but I do want to try to improve myself. I am pretty consistent when reloading so I don't think it is an issue with my loading process itself but could be an issue with my load. Thoughts?
FYI, I do not have people near me to shoot with to confirm if it is me or the load or the rifle etc or to have someone help in person.
Rifle is factory bedded so I guess there could be potential issue there. All the other things except 9 are all good and I've checked. As for number 9 I keep my powders in my outdoor work room but it has a dehumidifier and keeps the room at 45% or less.1. Rifle bedding
2. Is barrel making contact with the stock anywhere along the stock?
3. Is the scope securley mounted to the rifle?
4. Is both the barrel and chamber clean?
5. What condition is your barrel in?
6. Is ammo consentric?
7. Is neck tention within limits?
8. Are your dies in good shape, clean and set up properly?
9. Is your powder stale or has it been kept moisture free and cool?
I know this is a long list and this is only a few factors that could caue your problems.
Now that u can shoot 600 yds do ur ladder testing at this distance instead of 100.I am in NY. This load is Nosler brass, h1000 72.6grains, hammer 177 bullets, federal match primers. I did 10 round Satterlee test to find speed nodes. I found two. FYI, those 10 rounds in that Satterlee test all fell under an inch at 100 yards even though they varied in charge weights by .3 grains which I was hopeful meant the rifle likes these bullets. I then loaded up 6 rounds at the 72.6 grain weight. Shot 3 at the 125 yard target I had and got a .7inch group with no vertical spread what so ever so i thought maybe it was my trigger finger control (all horizontal stringing). That is when I said ill shoot the other 3 at 600 to see what happens.
I really don't want to burn this barrel out. I have a few other rifles I can do that with. My 6.5prc shoots lights out to 300 yards. Haven't tried it at 600 yet though but I have confidence with that rifle. I'm just trying to work up a decent load for this rifle. The furthest hunting shot this rifle will see is 500 yards and chances of that are slim. Is e rifle unnecessary for short range? Yes but I just like the caliber lol if I could just get a decent group. We shall see I guess.Now that u can shoot 600 yds do ur ladder testing at this distance instead of 100.
One hundred yds just isn't far enough imo.
Then shoot a lot. There's really no other way to improve on urself other than practice.
It's just a bbl.
You have access to the perfect spotter provided that she is either a shooter herself ( a huge bonus ) , or willing to learn how to spot for you.I have been a long time member here but honestly not a long time long range shooter. My local range for many years only allowed 300 yards shooting and it was often crowded. Well My wife and I moved to our own property a few years back and I finally cleared out a 600 yard range. How do you know when working up loads if it is you, the weather (wind and such) or the load if your groups are not the greatest? My shooting range is not too effected by wind (most of it is a clear cut path through woods) so I think I can eliminate that from the equation. I would say maybe 100-200 yards of it is slightly open to winds. So for example, I recently worked up a load for my 28Nosler. At 100 yards it shoots between .6- .75MOA at 100 yards. I had 3 rounds left and said screw it im shooting 600 lol. at 600 I shot an 8 inch group with those 3 remaining loads. 2 of the hits were within 4 inches of each other and strung vertically for the most part but the other hit was in between the two height wise but was about 8 inches left. So for an in-experienced long range shooter, how would I know if I pulled that shot, or maybe the wind caught it or maybe there is an issue with my rifle system (bedding issue) or a problem with my load? I understand to truly know I likely need to shoot many more rounds, but im just trying to limit the rounds thrown down the tube to hopefully preserve the barrel. I do not intend to shoot this rifle a ton so would like to keep the tube as long as possible. I will never be hunting to 600 (400 yard max where I hunt) so really it is not too much of an issue but I do want to try to improve myself. I am pretty consistent when reloading so I don't think it is an issue with my loading process itself but could be an issue with my load. Thoughts?
FYI, I do not have people near me to shoot with to confirm if it is me or the load or the rifle etc or to have someone help in person.
Seating depth can cause horizontal stringing as well