Your general point is valid. For the TBAC DT Ultra series cans, they have what is ostensibly a single port brake that is permanently mounted within the can. That "brake" is replaceable. A second port that is on the actual brake does not help much if at all in regards to serving as a blast baffle.Forgive me if I missed it but there is one advantage of the thread over brake mounts that I don't believe has been mentioned. They act as sacrificial blast baffles that are replaceable.
All suppressors experience some level of flame cutting of the blast baffle. How much depends on multiple factors (powder capacity of case, length of barrel, blast baffle material, etc.) but it happens. If you have ever taken a good look at the blast baffles inside multiple suppressors with extensive use after they have had the carbon and crud cleaned away, you can see the effects. Worst blast baffle erosion I have ever personally seen was on a direct thread rifle suppressor shared between several magnum caliber rifles. It was brought into the dealer when the owner complained that accuracy had deteriorated over time. I happened to be there after it came out of cleaning and before the owner picked it up. The dealer's observation was that cleaning it would probably help with the accuracy but the level of erosion probably meant it would never be as accurate as it was when new due to the disruption of the gas flow caused by the erosion. (This makes sense to me but I'm not a physicist.)
I own multiple .22lr, pistol-caliber, and rifle-caliber suppressors. My current rifle-caliber suppressors are all QD. They use flash hider mounts on some rifles and brake mounts on others based on cartridge and barrel length. None, however, are considered "precision rifle" suppressors even though one of them is currently used on one of my hunting rifles. I'm presently in the market for another rifle suppressor and, after talking to several manufacturers and getting feedback from quite a few owners, I have decided it will be a TBAC Ultra 7 using the Compact Brake mounts.
All of this is just my opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it.
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Craig Miller
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You are absolutely correct. But, last I checked, replacing that part inside the direct thread Ultras requires the suppressor to be shipped to TBAC for servicing.
Yep, it does. You also should be sending in your can once every time you build up about 2 oz of carbon. So that is a non-issue for me. My 30P-1 is due for a cleaning based on carbon build-up, but is still sub 1/2 MOA on my 7mag with factory ammo. So I'll probably wait until this winter.
I'm not trying to change your mind. If the CB appeals to you that's great. There's a pro and con with each - mainly one has a brake and the other doesn't.
Just unscrew the brake and thread on the suppressor as long as there is a good shoulder for it to lock against I have been using suppressors for 20 years but in the uk they are called moderators.
Make sure the barrel was threaded from the bore not the outside of the barrel.
Both my 22-250's are threaded 1/2 inch unf my 30-06 is threaded 1/2 inch unf and my 338-06 and my 6.5 - 284 are threaded 14 x 1mm.
They work by the gas rushing down the barrel expanding in the Suppressor and pushes against the end.
Always remove the suppresor when you have finished shooting as the vavours in the unit corrode the crown of the barrel.
I hope that helps Keith
Make sure the barrel was threaded from the bore not the outside of the barrel.
Both my 22-250's are threaded 1/2 inch unf my 30-06 is threaded 1/2 inch unf and my 338-06 and my 6.5 - 284 are threaded 14 x 1mm.
They work by the gas rushing down the barrel expanding in the Suppressor and pushes against the end.
Always remove the suppresor when you have finished shooting as the vavours in the unit corrode the crown of the barrel.
I hope that helps Keith
SteveBurton
Formerly 'Jackmonkey'
I've been reading this post with interest as I am going to buy a suppressor very soon. I'm looking at the Thunderbeast Ultra 7 in 30 cal so that I can attach it to several rifles. Looking at their CD mount, it has threads on it. I don't understand the difference between that and a DT option. Can anyone with a Ultra chime in with their opinion? I know other suppressors have a quicker twist on and off but I'm specifically looking at the Ultra 7.
For either option, you obviously need the muzzle threaded. For the DT, the can mounts directly onto the muzzle. For the CB, the brake mounts to the muzzle and then the can mounts onto the brake.
geocodyrgia
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I did a form 1 so that I could build my own suppressor and make it the way I wanted. Some very good information on form1suppressors website and other places. The most popular method for a lot of these is a Griffin Armament taper mount brake with a Ti can with the first 2-3 baffles being steel and the rest Ti for weight. I have a 9" can that I really built for my 10.5" 300BLK pistol, but it can handle to 300RUM if it needs to. I use it quite often on my 6mm Creed PRS gun to keep the brake from being obnoxious and it works awesome. It definitely hasn't opened up groups.
SteveBurton
Formerly 'Jackmonkey'
Right, but I don't understand what the advantage is to the CB for an Ultra vs DT since both need a considerable amount of turning to tighten the suppressor on.
22Kreedmire
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I run rugged surge suppressor. Rock solid QD Mount that literally can't come off And rock solid repeatability between off and on. I switch it between about 75% of my rifles and they are always zeroed where I had em .. I run 3 port brakes on some and the flash hider on some. If the brake won't time with 1ish shim I have my buddy install the brake on his lathe. Shooting 300wm. Most recoil no brake. Less recoil suppressor. Least recoil brake only.
22Kreedmire
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A little advantage goes to the brakes versions. Brake acts somewhat as a sacrificial blast baffle..
You're right, the CB mount is not a QD mount. The mount interface between the can and brake is tapered, which may allow the can to "lock-up" tighter. I'll say that with the DT, I will check them when I'm shooting alot in a single session. Really the only benefit of the brake attach option is that you have a brake underneath it that can be used when the can is off.
This is a moot point with the Ultra series. The DT also have a "blast baffle"
