Rifle for Older Guy with a Bad Neck....

[5.56×250]

For whitetail , in both the grendel and the creed, I'm leaning towards doing some testing with the lighter weight hammer bullets. Thinking the 110 hammer hunter at somewhere over 3000 fps in the creed and the 99gr hunter in the grendel , hopefully north of 2700 fps. Light bullets for caliber, in light calibers. Light recoil and I dont think a deer alive could stand either one in the boiler room !

 

[Web1350]

257 Roberts! Point & shoot, my2cnt's.

Agreed. I used to hunt with a guy with a .257 Robert's and was very impressed with what it offered. Light recoil and very effective on deer. If I would be in the market for a deer rifle under your circumstances, this is the first caliber I look to.

 

[Web1350]

I went through this years ago. Extensive extensive research & testing at the range.

#1) Gave my .30-06 to my son.
#2) 7mm-08 Browning BAR, semi auto takes away so much recoil. Kills Elk dead, dead.. dead..dead. 140 grain partition.
#3) .243 Browning BAR for white tail. 80 grain or 100 grain. Deer just fall over. Hogs don't fall over as fast, but they die eventually.

I tried the low recoil rounds, they suck. I use full factory loads.
If you want to do the next step, have a brake installed, but I don't need it. I'd rather save my hearing.

No one makes a 6.5 CM in semi. At least not a hunting rifle. I asked Browning too, but they haven't done so yet.

And remember, no more long tracks !!! short tracks kill Bear, Elk, anything I want hanging on my wall.

I have a Browning BAR Mk3 in a 7mm Magnum and it is a pussycat to shoot. The semi auto takes, I'd guess, the recoil down to about 25% of what it would be in a bolt action.

 

[CNY Yote Hunter]

Maybe a savage model 110 with the new accufit stock? Fully adjustable length of pull and cheek rest most important for neck issues. They come with 5 different cheek rests if I remember right and you can get them in about any caliper you would like... just a though

 

[DCAN]

He's more responsible than I am about spending $. He's thinking about sticking with the LMT as you noted or using my model 70 .243 that I don't use anymore. I bet you he'll go with the LMT. Wonder if the AR10 will cycle reduced recoil loads. May have to try a couple and see.

AR10 in .243? or 6.5 CM? Lots of good choices which can go in an AR10.

 

[jbruehl]

My father is having some neck issues that he's currently working through with his doctors. C3 / 5&6 are being a real pain in the ---. Not unusual for a 69 year old guy. His pain at the moment would certainly prevent him from shooting heavy kick rifles. They're going the steroid shot route for now as they try to figure out a long term solution. As of right now the shooting pains from the nerves, etc. hit frequent enough that shooting wouldn't be much fun. So being that we are inherently stubborn creatures and don't want to miss a hunting season or practice we need to figure out what he'll shoot so long as he gets the ok from the Dr.

So, the question to the group is what would you choose in his situation to shoot for whitetail hunting this season. Elevated box blinds, 300 yards max distance in Virginia

He currently has the following options:
1) LMT .308 ar10 with suppressor - really heavy gun to tote around
2) 300 blackout ar with suppressor - lacks range for most blinds but is the perfect rifle for kick/weight
3) A Bolt 7WSM - could add a break to calm it down in consideration of the neck...it's not a bad kick now
4) Use his CZ 308 with reduced recoil loads
5) Seeing as how we love guns should he buy a 6.5cm or a 7-08 or the like and use the neck as an excuse to buy something new?
6) Put the 7wsm or 308 in a different stock with adjustable comb/lop so he can really dial in his head vs. a stock pad

Fire away.

6 creedmore has a light recoil and will work well past 300 yards

 

[Alex cooray]

My father is having some neck issues that he's currently working through with his doctors. C3 / 5&6 are being a real pain in the ---. Not unusual for a 69 year old guy. His pain at the moment would certainly prevent him from shooting heavy kick rifles. They're going the steroid shot route for now as they try to figure out a long term solution. As of right now the shooting pains from the nerves, etc. hit frequent enough that shooting wouldn't be much fun. So being that we are inherently stubborn creatures and don't want to miss a hunting season or practice we need to figure out what he'll shoot so long as he gets the ok from the Dr.

So, the question to the group is what would you choose in his situation to shoot for whitetail hunting this season. Elevated box blinds, 300 yards max distance in Virginia

He currently has the following options:
1) LMT .308 ar10 with suppressor - really heavy gun to tote around
2) 300 blackout ar with suppressor - lacks range for most blinds but is the perfect rifle for kick/weight
3) A Bolt 7WSM - could add a break to calm it down in consideration of the neck...it's not a bad kick now
4) Use his CZ 308 with reduced recoil loads
5) Seeing as how we love guns should he buy a 6.5cm or a 7-08 or the like and use the neck as an excuse to buy something new?
6) Put the 7wsm or 308 in a different stock with adjustable comb/lop so he can really dial in his head vs. a stock pad

Fire away.

Hello my Friend, I am 74 year old former special ops, had the same problem like your Dad. First let me give you the some advise I used on myself. First try to fix the neck, mine was c 3 and 4 or five . I consulted a Special spinal physiotherapist in Melbourne , Australia and had a about 4 sessions of traction. First I was worried thinking they may accidentally pull my neck right off LOL , but they give you a emergency button which cuts every thing off when you activate it . I found traction amazingly calming that I always fall asleep within 5 mins as it releases all built up stresses in the neck.
Now about the rifle, I am only 65.5 Kilos 5'6" and shoot the 300 winmag with 210 gn , Berger in a custom Remington with 26.5 @ stainless barrel kicks like a mule.
I consistently shoot 0.32 moa and often 3 leaf clover with all shots touching some through same hole, not bragging but I want to help your dad and therefore my credentials.
Another important thing I learnt through the years, learn to ride the recoil and not fight it.Be like. Cowboy riding a bucking Horse, go with it and not fight it, this will also help your firearm to track without jumping vertically. the whole upper body should move back wards for the recoil, do not stiffen up and take it to you shoulder which will pass on to your Neck, Now you can decide on your rifle. Perhaps 6.5 cremore or a 308 Rugger , praise Jesus! Please keep in touch.

 

[DWier]

I would avoid BCA barrels... I have heard they are a literal crap-shoot for quality and accuracy. I do hear their customer service is good, but I'd rather spend a bit more, and not have to send back barrels over and over till I get a "good one". Shows quality of materials and craftsmanship, or lack-of, IMO.

Rainier Arms builds a hell of an accurate match and ultra match series barrel. They used to offer Shilen cut-rifled match-grade barrels in 6.5 Grendel. I don't see them on their website anymore, but you can probably give them a call and see if they can still get you one. They were around $450 back when they used to offer them. But knowing Shilen's quality, and being 5R cut-rifled, I'm sure it's one hell of an accurate barrel for that price. I have several Rainier Arms barrels in other chambering and they are VERY accurate...Even with cheap bulk ammo...And even more accurate with high-quality ammo and handloads.

 

[DWier]

Certainly I'm new to long range shooting and new to the forum but I and 3 shooting buddies all have Bergara 6.5 cm and they are tack drivers at 800 meters. 2 are HMR and 2 are Premier LRP Elite.

 

[DWier]

270 Win or 6.5 Creedmoor should work.

270 Win kicks much harder than 6.5.

 

[DWier]

270 Win kicks much harder than 6.5 CM

 

[Wolf76]

Didn't read all the replies.

What about putting a brake on his cz 308 and shooting a 130 ttsx load?
308 is fairly mild to begin with and the 130 gr bullet is light for the cartridge. Throw in a brake/suppressor and the gun should recoil like a heartbeat in the scope.

 

[5.56×250]

Didn't read all the replies.

What about putting a brake on his cz 308 and shooting a 130 ttsx load?
308 is fairly mild to begin with and the 130 gr bullet is light for the cartridge. Throw in a brake/suppressor and the gun should recoil like a heartbeat in the scope.

For me personally, I couldn't handle the 308 with the 168gr ttsx in a rifle that weighed in the 8-9 lb range, and that was with a very effective brake and a nice pad. The OPs dad might be different.

I think it all comes down to figuring out your hunting situation, effective range needs, and style of pursuit . After carefully considering those things, find the cartridge/platform that will allow you to fulfill those goals WITH the least recoil. That will give you a handful of choices that are so similar it would be hard to tell the difference. Then base your decision on avaliability, because time is too short to chase components. It's better spent chasing game !

 

[hesse]

Go with the 6.5 cm 129 grain bullets . Great round for 300 yards