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Ramblings and Such From Hunting Coyote

Weatherby's are weird by the way. The front action screw goes right into the recoil lug. At least in my limited knowledge it seemed weird lol. It took a couple failures to get the bedding right and it's pretty amazing how accurate a 30-378 can be considering the energy. Shooting 205 Berger's with n570 and keeping it mild at 3280. He's going to send it off and have a chassis built and plans on a faster twist 30" barrel. Should make a hell of a coyote gun
 
Ruger M77Mark II's are the same way . They screw in at an angle through the front of the bottom metal in the hinged part . Lots of release agent . To put a pillar in the front screw action screw hole isn't a bad idea just not as simple as with other actions . If you are pillar bedding your actions there are suppliers that make them to work with almost any actions . If I'm not mistaken the reasoning was to draw the action rearward and try to make it more secure . When torquing them they also had a sweet spot that often would affect the accuracy if not done properly and in the right sequence while tightening the action screws .
 
I love a good wood stock they just look and feel good to me but they have their bad points and moisture is one of them . They can dry out or swell with more moisture . I like to pull my rifles out of the wooden stocks and put some good wood finish on all of the places that the factory doesn't seem to get covered , the end grains on the butt , barrel channel and inside of the trigger well as well as under the bottom metal .
 
DSheetz said:
I love a good wood stock they just look and feel good to me but they have their bad points and moisture is one of them . They can dry out or swell with more moisture . I like to pull my rifles out of the wooden stocks and put some good wood finish on all of the places that the factory doesn't seem to get covered , the end grains on the butt , barrel channel and inside of the trigger well as well as under the bottom metal .
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Dave, have you ever tried using Minwax Wood Hardener to seal your stocks? https://www.minwax.com/wood-products/maintenance-repair/minwax-high-performance-wood-hardener

It is designed to harden soft and rotting wood in old furniture to restore it, but it does really well at sealing the pores. Like Kroil does to stuck hardware, this stuff creeps into the wood fibers.

Ed
 
Ed , I have that's what I use on my wood when I build calls . I'm kind of strange I don't recommend it for every one to do things that I do but for my calls and knife scales I put them in a quart glass jar with a sealable lid then fill it where it will cover them when they are filled with it and sink . I just set the lid on it loose then I put a couple of strips of scrap steel in a sauce pan add some water and put it on my stove burner with the jar setting on the scraps of steel that way the jar isn't setting on the pan and doesn't want to break or move around as it is heated . I will heat it on a low heat till you can see the wood start to put out a lot of small air bubbles like it is boiling . I then remove it and set it on my cutting board tighten the lid and let it cool thus I have the things in the jar under a vacuum kind of like canning my dill pickles . I don't recommend it as the min wax wood hardener is very flammable . After the wood sinks I know that it is as saturated as it will become so then I remove the wood set it on end and let it cure and dry for a couple of weeks before using it . And I also love Kroil I've used gallons of it on turbine bolts and nuts as well as many other tight fitting things just not on my levies when they got tight . The turbines run at several hundred degrees for sometimes a year or more before they get a chance to cool off and I have worked on some that ran over 8 years before they were taken apart for repairs put the kroil on before it cools all the way off or heat them some then put it on let it set overnight and you will have significantly less work taking things a part . Isn't it a wonderful thing when we get to share our ways of doing things with others ?
 
It's amazing how many things people have found that work and often just don't think about it so don't share it with others but then all of the sudden someone will say how they are doing something and another person will say have you tried this or that you scratch your head and say to yourself why didn't I think of that or well heck others do the same things that I do as well .
 
I wished I would have taken some pics of re bedding the mark v but I wasn't sure if what I was doing was going to work lol. The factory was rocking on the recoil lug and making contact out past it in the barrel channel close to the receiver out a couple inches from the recoil lug. The 3rd attempt, I used electrical tape around the barrel and about 1/8 wide strip around the tang to level everything and raise it. Maybe it wasn't the correct way but it went from a 3" group at 200 to inside an " square.
 
When you got it to be stable in the stock you fixed your problem . I use some masking tape on my barrel where I don't want it to be and to float my barrel . It's a project to bed an action and there are a few twists on it . There was a good rifle builder in a town close to where I live that taught me how he did his and so that is the way I do mine I build a dam in the channel where I don't want the bedding material to flow with kids modeling clay . Remove some of the stock material where I want the bedding material to be strong so it will be a bit thicker in that area . I'm a fan of aluminum pillars for my action screws to go through and for my action to rest on . For me it's a couple of day project a few hours but taking the time to let things cure and for the prep work as with most things I do it's what leads up to the actual work that makes a big difference in the final results . So many people that I have worked with tell me I'm way to finicky and I need to just get it done I'm not building a piano . No I'm not but I am going to do to the best of my capabilities what ever it is I am doing and it doesn't matter what it is there are more things to learn . If you are happy with the end product you did well and then the next time you will know some more about what you are getting into going into the project and see a few things you can do differently at the onset of your project .
 
I re did a Christensen arms Mesa long range that I let the action screws get loose and some of the bedding started chipping out. It also took a couple tries lol. I'm definitely going to use some mild locktite on the action screws from now on. Also, a big part of my problem was not getting all the old bedding out which kept putting things in a bind. It also helped knowing both rifles shot well to begin with so I was sure of the problem. I can't imagine being an actual gunsmith and trouble shooting from scratch
 
I don't use any loc-tite on my action screws . I like to clean the holes and threads with alcohol then use a dab of fingernail polish on them so I can get them loose when needed to . when I'm bedding I like a lot of release agent on them . I also like to change my screws out for allen head screws instead of slotted head screws then find the torque specks for them and torque them starting a little below speck checking the grouping as I bring it up in torque and the correct sequence so that I can find the sweet spot for the particular action . A good cotton swab helps me clean the holes . The manufacture will give you sequence and torque specks . I have a few torque wrenches they have uses for each one for the action screws I have a wheeler fat wrench and bits for it that work on the screws . For my barrel nuts I have a click stop torque wrench that is 1/2 drive . But then I'm addicted to having tools for working with . I have a few screw drivers that have been made for specific gun screws . Smith and Wesson revolvers come to mind for the need of tight fitting screw drivers . To me nothing sux quite like a screw head that is messed up because I didn't have the right fitting screwdriver . Having a sharp bur on my screw and looking not right isn't good for me and if your doing it for a friend they probably won't like it either . Hummmm I wonder why my wife and kids tell me I'm an A87 Ho09 to work with and for .
 
Learning is so much fun to me . I hope that I never decide that I have learned enough . My Grandma told me when she was in her 90's that learning had gotten easier for her as she could now learn tomorrow what she had learned the day before . She never did loose her sense of humor I hope to keep mine as well . And now we know why we enjoy visiting on here we can learn from each other as we go along in daily life .
 

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