I only had one chance on a bull off horses.Riding out dark timber after hiking it all day.I had many set ups.This one was my rifle in a zip up scabbard, I bailed but my dumb buddy didn't see elk and was walking and I was on a side hill in a cluster trying to get my 340 out.To slow and had to chase my horse down to get back going.Friend never saw the 20 head with nice bull 40 yrds.Wish I had my 44,woulda rolled him.Ive been shooting light braked rifles for years, got the scares to prove it.I can usually spot hit with my light 338NM,but not always.My 6 # 325 is sharper.Many times see all legs up in the air, thats why I roll with the 338.I always use my ear plugs on hoop.Even at 50 yrds on a 6x6 ,takes just a sec.In past I walked out 1/2 not hear anything.I want hear elk bugle in my old age.I was easy spotting hits with my 6#,6.5 Prc,last weekend out to 800.