Pressure signs way below max load

[Joefrazell]

Yes. I did not measure from tip of the bullet, I measured with a caliper and bullet comparator with the correct insert.

That's gotta be the longest win mag throat ever to be cut.

 

[Mc Fraser]

I don't believe I made an error, I measure it with 2 different techniques and by a gunsmith as well.

 

[Joefrazell]

Mine is like 3.7 coal with a 215 Berger and that was with a factory chamber. Could be but that bullets jumping a mile

 

[Joefrazell]

I don't know why a Smith would throat it that long but who knows

 

[FEENIX]

Sorry what I meant to say is that I seat my bullets according to the book, for example eldx 212 is seated at 3.5, other at 3.34, which is way below measured CBTO 3.7500. I don't jam the bullet nor seat them under 3.34 or 3.5 in the case of eldx 212

Something is definitely wrong with the numbers above. I am looking at my Hornady for 212 ELD-X and 3.34" is the recommended COAL, this is "not" the same as CBTO.

I think you're measuring your CBTO with the gauge insert; 3.750' - gauge (normally 1.00") = 2.750" which makes sense. To measure the COAL, remove the remove the insert, zero the caliper and measure from base of the brass to the tip of the bullet.
This is my .300 WM with 200 NAB...

CBTO

COAL

 

[Mc Fraser]

That's gotta be the longest win mag throat ever to be cut.

Something is definitely wrong with the numbers above. I am looking at my Hornady for 212 ELD-X and 3.34" is the recommended COAL, this is "not" the same as CBTO.

I think you're measuring your CBTO with the gauge insert; 3.750' - gauge (normally 1.00") = 2.750" which makes sense. To measure the COAL, remove the remove the insert, zero the caliper and measure from base of the brass to the tip of the bullet.

I only use CBTO for Berger bullets, for Hornady and Sierra bullets I use COAL.
COAL for 212 Eld-x is 3.5in

 

[FEENIX]

I only use CBTO for Berger bullets, for Hornady and Sierra bullets I use COAL.
COAL for 212 Eld-x is 3.5in

I got that part, but your 3.750" CBTO remains a mystery, look at my pictures that I added.

 

[Mc Fraser]

I got that part, but your 3.750" CBTO remains a mystery, look at my pictures that I added.

Thanks. That is exactly how I measure as CBTO and COAL.

It might just be that my rifle builds pressure faster than other rifles and I have to slow down my loads. Who knows? So far the only potential red flags that I could think of are: the original barrel was a 4R this one is 5R and the fact that the throat is longer than most of the rifles.

 

[DT400]

Sorry what I meant to say is that I seat my bullets according to the book, for example eldx 212 is seated at 3.5, other at 3.34, which is way below measured CBTO 3.7500. I don't jam the bullet nor seat them under 3.34 or 3.5 in the case of eldx 212

Something still doesn't make sense.
CBTO can not be longer then COAL.

Darrell

 

[Mc Fraser]

You are right, I apologize or the typo error, should be 2.7500 instead of 3.7500.

 

[DT400]

You are right, I apologize or the typo error, should be 2.7500 instead of 3.7500.

One mystery solved...now back to our originally programmed mystery.

Darrell

 

[FEENIX]

Thanks. That is exactly how I measure as CBTO and COAL.

It might just be that my rifle builds pressure faster than other rifles and I have to slow down my loads. Who knows? So far the only potential red flags that I could think of are: the original barrel was a 4R this one is 5R and the fact that the throat is longer than most of the rifles.

If you have a CBTO of 3.750" that means you have over 4.00" of COAL. Can you show us a picture of your COAL like the last picture I have. As you can see I am not the only one that is puzzled with your claim.

 

[FEENIX]

One mystery solved...now back to our originally programmed mystery.

Darrell

Agreed!

 

[DT400]

Berger 215 VLD Hunting, 200 and 212 eldx book seating depth, way below measured OAL which I measured with the hornady tool and with the sharpie bullet method. I cant remember from the top of my head the loads but they are from the Hornady and Berger book.

Do you have a buddy with a COAL tool? Not the Hornady Comparator but the COAL tool that uses a special cartridge case and the bullet of your choice to measure YOUR exact cartridge base to lands inside the gun.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1012747079?pid=570611
I am wondering if your chamber is actually shorter than spec and you are in the lands. The sharpie method isn't the best by a large margin.

Darrell