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[comfisherman]

The actions tend towards heavy by nature compared to comparable 700s, and the dbm and barrel contours trend towards heavy. But a lighter weight stock and a sporter taper would go a long ways, while the magazine is the beauty of the system. A Dakota m22 or silver 2500xr solution would probably get the weight down some.

It would be nice to have a 700 clone 22 lr that's closer in Wright spec to my main hunting rifle. As it sits it probably would land a good pound heavier.

 

[Rob01]

I wish the 700 based .22's were more suited for hunting. Nothing about a 10+ lb squirrel rifle sounds fun. I have two vudoo and they are great target guns but way too heavy and unwieldy for a squirrel gun.

You can get it set up with a carbon fiber barrel and light stock and it will be sub 10 pounds. That said it would be cheaper to buy a cheap light rifle to shoot a squirrel. LOL

 

[ntsqd]

Guess that answers my question about if you tried a 700 based .22 that the discussion is about.

Why would I try something that I have no interest in? I don't discount the idea that such a design has it's merits and that others might greatly enjoy them. I simply have no interest in them myself.
The R77/22 action is more appealing to me despite it's various problems. Would I choose a 77/22 to build a bench rifle from? Not hardly. To build a carrying rifle from? Definitely an action that I would consider. Though a Win 75 or a 513T barreled action are more likely what I would use to build a carry rifle. Were I buying rather than building I might be looking for a 541S, but I don't know enough about them (yet) to say for sure. My .22LR carry rifle now is a Stevens Favorite with a Marbles Tang rear and 17A front sights. Have to spend cubic dollars on a bolt to get anywhere near close to that weight. It has also been disqualified from use in any shooting comps with friends as an unfair advantage.

 

[Rob01]

Why would I try something that I have no interest in? I don't discount the idea that such a design has it's merits and that others might greatly enjoy them. I simply have no interest in them myself. The R77/22 action is much more appealing to me despite it's various problems. Would I choose a 77/22 to build a bench rifle from? Not hardly. To build a carrying rifle from? Definitely an action that I would consider. A Win 75 or a 513T action are more likely what I would use to build a carry rifle. Were I buying rather than building I would be looking for a 541 Sporter.

Because you don't know what you don't know and you made statements about the 700 based .22s and I was wondering if they came from you trying them or just what you think might be an issue.

 

[6xshooter]

The best kept secret ot 22 rifles is STEYR MANNLICHER ZEPHYR II

 

[ntsqd]

Because you don't know what you don't know and you made statements about the 700 based .22s and I was wondering if they came from you trying them or just what you think might be an issue.

I know what a 700SA's size is. Have handled at least a hundred of them over the years. I think that is too big of an action for a field carry .22LR. I don't have to have tried one to arrive at that opinion. I pioneered BR50 at my local range in the mid 1980's, BT, DT, not interested any more.
Just to be clear, my opinion is worth exactly what you paid me for it.

The best kept secret ot 22 rifles is STEYR MANNLICHER ZEPHYR II

Went looking because I had not encountered those before. Nice looking rifle. If they shoot like the Steyr's that I've encountered I'll agree!

 

[Buzzsaw]

The best kept secret ot 22 rifles is STEYR MANNLICHER ZEPHYR II

shush

 

[Rob01]

I know what a 700SA's size is. Have handled at least a hundred of them over the years. I think that is too big of an action for a field carry .22LR. I don't have to have tried one to arrive at that opinion. I pioneered BR50 at my local range in the mid 1980's, BT, DT, not interested any more.
Just to be clear, my opinion is worth exactly what you paid me for it.

Yup it's worth that. Lol Just wanted anyone who was reading this where that opinion came from.

Also adding in "field carry" is starting to get more specific than we were talking.

 

[Buzzsaw]

Voodoo makes a lightweight model.

 

[Rob01]

Voodoo makes a lightweight model.

Yup they do.

 

[ntsqd]

Yup it's worth that. Lol Just wanted anyone who was reading this where that opinion came from.

It is exactly the same as everyone else's.

Also adding in "field carry" is starting to get more specific than we were talking.

This a Hunting forum, not a BR, PRS, or similar forum. Field carry, or at least carried to the field is implied.

 

[Rob01]

It is exactly the same as everyone else's.

This a Hunting forum, not a BR, PRS, or similar forum. Field carry, or at least carried to the field is implied.

I wouldn't say implied if the OP didn't mention it and all through the post have been many other rifles mentioned than lightweight hunters.

 

[Longtine88]

@Jud96 well now you have me itching to put together a tack driving squirrel gun now. All I need is another project.

 

[JiggyIi]

Have not used their products but this gives some good info.

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