I find 375h&h manageable in my hands, never shot bigger
Preferred impact velocity?
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memtb
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I've shot 416 Rigby from a #1 Ruger…..pretty tame in reality! Though, I was standing…..not shooting from a bench!
And your very correct about the .375 H&H being quite manageable. My wife has run a few 300's through my old .375, and found it to be very manageable….but that rifle weighs nearly 11 pounds scoped/loaded/slung. The additional weight takes a lot of the thump out of it!
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I used fps as my red line for taking game. Currently I'm shooting VLD Hunting in 708 with 6.5 StaBAL I'm running 2925 from a 26" barrel.
Ballistics calculator says still above 2000 fps out to 700 yds. I won't take a 700 yd shot on whitetail, just me.. but I know I'm above 2000 fps at any distance I'm comfortable.
Short answer 2000 fps with VLDs.
Ballistics calculator says still above 2000 fps out to 700 yds. I won't take a 700 yd shot on whitetail, just me.. but I know I'm above 2000 fps at any distance I'm comfortable.
Short answer 2000 fps with VLDs.
akmtnhnt
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I find thew exact opposite is true. Velocity is much more important than energy. Especially with pass throughs.
Lefty7mmstw
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I'll let you shoot my 375 H&H if you want. She tips the scale at 8# loaded.I've shot 416 Rigby from a #1 Ruger…..pretty tame in reality! Though, I was standing…..not shooting from a bench!
And your very correct about the .375 H&H being quite manageable. My wife has run a few 300's through my old .375, and found it to be very manageable….but that rifle weighs nearly 11 pounds scoped/loaded/slung. The additional weight takes a lot o& th3 thump out of it!
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You're onto something. Velocity creates energy. We have to remember that energy calculations are just that - numbers on paper. Its actual benefit is subject to how much that energy gets transferred and used effectively terminally. Furthermore, what the bullet does when it impacts, it's terminal design characteristics, can make it possible for a "low-energy" bullet to out-kill something with much higher energy numbers. I've had effectively designed light bullets handily outperform much heavier, higher energy bullets on similar impacts. Velocity = tissue displacement if the bullet is designed right. I agree that energy is a beneficial number. I just don't see it as the singular factor of consideration. I've had enough personal experiences to speak on this.
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Velocity.
If it was about energy, military FMJs would do just fine for hunting, as they have plenty of energy. It's about blood loss from tissue damage, which happens when a bullet is going fast enough to open up. Too slow and it passes straight through without the tissue damage.
If it was about energy, military FMJs would do just fine for hunting, as they have plenty of energy. It's about blood loss from tissue damage, which happens when a bullet is going fast enough to open up. Too slow and it passes straight through without the tissue damage.
memtb
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If you believe in the 1500 ft/lbs energy concept for elk (which I do not)…… my wife and I are good well beyond our self-imposed range limit.
With the theorized 1500 ft/lbs required for elk…….she's good for a bit beyond 925 yards and I'm good for a bit beyond 1175 yards. Neither one of us would ever consider those as ethical shot ranges for us! memtb
With the theorized 1500 ft/lbs required for elk…….she's good for a bit beyond 925 yards and I'm good for a bit beyond 1175 yards. Neither one of us would ever consider those as ethical shot ranges for us! memtb
memtb
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That's a nice hunting weight for a .375 H&H…..I'd be interested in the recoil #'s generated by your hunting load! I assume that it's not braked!
I'd like to compare it's #'s to that of my 8 pound 12 ounce rifle as fired from the bench giving 59 ft/lbs recoil with recoil velocity @ near 21 fps.
All dressed up (scoped, loaded, slung) and on the hunt she weighs in at 9 pounds 7 ozs…..which tames recoil considerably! Brings it down to around 55.5 ft/lbs! memtb
tigerrose01
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Might sound dumb but I have wanted to buy a 375 H&H for a while but can't find a dealer in my area in Florida who is even willing to order one. I quit asking about a year ago...any ideas where I should look? I probably can't swing a custom one right now but it may be possible to do in the future.
Lefty7mmstw
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Cabelas gun library might be a good start...
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The energy carried by the bullet is just a potential for tissue damage. Bullet structure and shot placement are what convert this energy in actual tissue damage. You can have thousands of Joules of energy but if they are applied to the dirt behind the animal, the result will be bad.You're onto something. Velocity creates energy. We have to remember that energy calculations are just that - numbers on paper. Its actual benefit is subject to how much that energy gets transferred and used effectively terminally. Furthermore, what the bullet does when it impacts, it's terminal design characteristics, can make it possible for a "low-energy" bullet to out-kill something with much higher energy numbers. I've had effectively designed light bullets handily outperform much heavier, higher energy bullets on similar impacts. Velocity = tissue displacement if the bullet is designed right. I agree that energy is a beneficial number. I just don't see it as the singular factor of consideration. I've had enough personal experiences to speak on this.
