Post on Vortex scopes being....

[Deleted member 48126]

Also, as much as I agree with the principle of it, there is no freedom of speech on a private server managed by individuals. This message brought to you by your friendly neighborhood, key board lawyer.

 

[JungleBoogey]

I didnt get to read the thread but I'm pretty sure there is a rule here that you dont straight bash a product (especially one that advertises on this site) and from what I can see of the email it went that direction, Len wants things PC as to not run off potential members or costumers

Does PC belong to a hunting forum?
Hmmm...

 

[rsbhunter]

So I agree with it being a private forum/site.....so I'm led to believe per previous posts, it's $$$$ based as to what gets deleted? I'm all for "if it's my ball, I make the rules". I'll take that into consideration in the future....I agree with a no whining prerequisite, and IF it was a unsubstantiated bash, then ok....but, if the problem was that a product was replaced with a lesser quality item under warranty, then yeah, I have a problem with that....rsbhunter

 

[Tidus56]

Also, as much as I agree with the principle of it, there is no freedom of speech on a private server managed by individuals. This message brought to you by your friendly neighborhood, key board lawyer.

Preach, brother preach!

 

[Deleted member 48126]

It was the same model but built in a different factory. The older version was Japanese the newer version of the same model was Chinese or Philipino

 

[mikea5232]

I was all excited to read that thread. I was just too late to the party.

 

[Deleted member 48126]

I was all excited to read that thread. I was just too late to the party.

you didn't miss anything.

 

[barrelnut50]

I'm all for "if it's my ball, I make the rules". I'll take that into consideration in the future....I agree with a no whining prerequisite, and IF it was a unsubstantiated bash, then ok....but, if the problem was that a product was replaced with a lesser quality item under warranty, then yeah, I have a problem with that....rsbhunter

That's why I don't visit or post here often.

 

[mikea5232]

you didn't miss anything.

Yeah probably not. Im not one to bash companies or their products. I just recommend others if needed. To many get worked up over stupid things these days. Learn your lesson and move on to the next.

 

[rsbhunter]

If I paid for optics that were made in Japan (good to excellent quality) and had them replaced with Chinese optic (questionable to decent quality) then I'd have a issue. And before I hear" Chinese is as good as Japanese, all the forums, members, and quality optic makers must be mistaken.....but there will be a lot of sales on Nikon scopes REAL soon....heard they are getting out of the SCOPE making business....rsbhunter

 

[Greyfox]

I clicked and couldn't access the post as well but did read the first few lines of the post in the LRH email summary.....I'm much inclined to give Len the benefit of the doubt on this post.

 

[JungleBoogey]

I can not access the original post, whoever posted it should re-compose their message and get it back up ASAP. I have also spent big $$$ on Vortex and have nothing but positive things to say about my Vortex experience.

We don't want the "Whistleblower" named, we just want to know what he/she whistled...

 

[Trb696]

I was curious about the post, even though I cannot afford Vortex as most of them seem to be priced more than I bought 2 of my vehicles for and 2x as much as I've ever bought a rifle for. Best scope I've ever owned was a Nikon Monarch bought used from a friend and I LOVED it. Did the job, was super clear, crisp, held zero on a Wby, and was under 3 bills. Remember ALOT of the price on anything is Marketing and hype. A Cadillac is the same as a Chevy, just with more bells n whistles and marketing to instill a belief that luxury=bucks. Both get you from A to B, you just don't have the Status Symbol to advertise to your neighbor, or other range shooters with your 2 to 3k scope... Yeti coolers and cups are the same too. Marketing, marketing, marketing...

 

[Clark]

I own hundreds of scopes. All the Vortex were take offs, until I bought one,
Vortex RZR-1558 Razor HD LH 2x 10 x40
$770 06/06/17 amazon

That is a good scope, er it would be for $250.
That is just my anecdote.

I looked at a new BMW car in 1984. [Being an engineer I roll around under cars to look at them] It would be a really good car for $8k, but they wanted $16k, so I bought a better car, a Saab, for $11k.
That is just my anecdote.

2019 Update, I shot everything this year with Leupold VX-6HD scopes that cost $2k.
I am driving a supercharged BMW that my daughter in law gave me. Really good used car for free.