goofycat I did the new rifle thing right before deer season 2 weeks to get exact 7mm rem mag. Went to my range the best it did was 4" at 100 I will never buy a weatherby agine! Went back were I got it and did a store trade same cal but a 700 SPS camo and stainless. Now I got 2 day to set it up went back to range 5 shots later hitting a MOA thats better! I also got a .06 so bucking the wind is coverd. As for rifles I looked at savage real hard but the barrle was to short (4 me) I dont know mutch about powder YET but I did know that the barrle lenght is inporant on mags (am i right ?) I got some work to do to it triger job piller bedding dont want to float this one. My .06 is awsom sub MOA 1" square at 200 cold bolt done a lot of work on this 1 it is a 721 biuld in 1951 with triger job cut and recrowned 22" lap bolt lugs adjusted head space. droped it in a 700 BDL stock with hinged floor plate. Nice conversation peace and a wast of monney. But still not done with it piller bedding. OOPS sorry got off track. So U think 270 is to big for coyote
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new to coyote hunting, 7mm-08 or .223?
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PRDATR
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A word of advice here concerning ammunition types and capacities. Here in Arizona you cannot use FMJ bullets for hunting. Magazine capacity is 5 rounds in centerfire rifles.
So make sure you are in compliance with your State and Local regulations.
Goofycat
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A .270 is fine for coyotes, as long as you don't mind not wanting to save the pelt. It is also a good caliber (as are several others) for hunting larger animals. For instance, a .223 is IMO too small for deer, but okay for coyotes, whereas a .270 is fine for both animals. Therefore, if you are hunting deer and happen to get a shot a coyote, this is the rifle to have. Not so with the smaller caliber, even though some hunters would feel otherwise.
I prefer a smaller centerfire caliber for coyotes, but my .22-250 weighs 14 pounds (with scope), so it is a little unwieldy for any long-distance walking. It is a heavy-barreled bench rest rifle....very accurate in .22-250, but it is a single-shot, not a semi-auto. I have had no problems using the single-shot for coyotes because I choose my shots carefully and wait until they stop or at least moving slowly enough for on-shot hits. I don't miss often.
I would like to purchase an AR-15 type rifle, but California has virtually outlawed them, erroneously thinking that such a law will lower the crime rate and prevent nutcases from mass murder. But that is another story.
4" MOA is quite excessive in my opinion for a 7 mag. I would have checked the scope mounts for tightness and even might have changed scopes, then checked the torque on the screws that attach the action to the stock. It sounds to me like something was loose. If you found nothing, you might have had a gunsmith do a cursory check on the gun before you decided to give it up. It sounds to me that the problem might have been easy to find.
the rifle was a wallmart vangaurd the triger pull was about 25#s tryed to adjust it didnt work. I think the barrle was to light to. The scope and rings are now on the 700.any way it is gone. I think for a coyote rifle I got to get a new 1 dont know what cal yet. untill then bring them in close shot gun. I should just trap them cuz I want to make a hat and tan some 4 the wall. Always looking for a way to extend the hunting season.
Goofycat
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Me too. I am going to wait for the Savage Predator Hunter in this caliber when it comes out later in 2010 with the AccuStock. The rifle has an aluminum bedding system now, but it lacks the tang that extends forward with the AccuStock. I want the stock to be stiff as possible.
. Only kidding...however pics are always appreciated.Goofycat
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Will do, Chas. It may be a while, though. The new model hasn't been offered to the public....yet. Supposed to be sometime in 2010. If I can get an answer from Savage, I will post it.
ejboy
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As usual I am Late getting to the forum. Iam kind of new to coyote hunting on accassions I have killed some here and there with a 25-06 and a few with a 7mag at long distances while deer hunting.
I bought a Savage 10 Predator this past summer in 22-250. I'm disapointed in it ,because it is not shooting as I think it should. I started out with Barnes 53gr which group close to an inch. The 55gr nosler B/Ts do a little better. I am planning on trying some Berger 62gr vld's.
If the .243 in the model 10 had been out at that time I would have bought it. I may sell my 22-250 and get one.
I'm realy thinking of useing my 6.5x55 it loves the Berger bullets and is very accurate and pleasant to shoot. Should I do that or get a .243?
If some one has some input on this please share.
ejboy
I bought a Savage 10 Predator this past summer in 22-250. I'm disapointed in it ,because it is not shooting as I think it should. I started out with Barnes 53gr which group close to an inch. The 55gr nosler B/Ts do a little better. I am planning on trying some Berger 62gr vld's.
If the .243 in the model 10 had been out at that time I would have bought it. I may sell my 22-250 and get one.
I'm realy thinking of useing my 6.5x55 it loves the Berger bullets and is very accurate and pleasant to shoot. Should I do that or get a .243?
If some one has some input on this please share.
ejboy
Goofycat
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Ej, why aren't you pleased with the .22-250? Seems that MOA is perfectly acceptable for coyotes, although I would think a slightly heavier bullet might be more effective, depending on your barrel twist? The .22-250 is considered one of the best calibers for coyotes, so I am puzzled as to why you are having problems.
ejboy
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chase1 & goofycat,
1st the 6.5 is more accurate than my 22-250. It is shooting 1 hole groups and it seems to fly straighter in the wind.
1st the 6.5 is more accurate than my 22-250. It is shooting 1 hole groups and it seems to fly straighter in the wind.
SBruce
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EJBoy,
Your 22-250 should be capable of shooting better than MOA, much better.
I don't know much about savage, never owned one; but I've got one of the earlier Remington VSSF models with NF 15X scope and Jewel trigger set at 10 oz. that is my #1 coyote rifle. You may not believe this, but it shoots 2" 3 shot groups at 400 yds, even 1 5/8" a couple of times (calm day off the bench) with my pet load (55 grn Berger MEF at 3750' per second).
If I were in your shoes with the Savage, I'd check into getting it bedded, recrowned, x-o scope, ect. because the 22-250 cartridge IS CAPABLE of better than 1 MOA with precision handloads.
Good Luck.
Your 22-250 should be capable of shooting better than MOA, much better.
I don't know much about savage, never owned one; but I've got one of the earlier Remington VSSF models with NF 15X scope and Jewel trigger set at 10 oz. that is my #1 coyote rifle. You may not believe this, but it shoots 2" 3 shot groups at 400 yds, even 1 5/8" a couple of times (calm day off the bench) with my pet load (55 grn Berger MEF at 3750' per second).
If I were in your shoes with the Savage, I'd check into getting it bedded, recrowned, x-o scope, ect. because the 22-250 cartridge IS CAPABLE of better than 1 MOA with precision handloads.
Good Luck.
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