New powders looking promising!

[mbse20]

Hodgson still has the enduron line of powders listed on their website. Other than "out of stock" it mentions nothing of being discontinued.

 

[billcaldwell]

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[Calvin45]

Hodgson still has the enduron line of powders listed on their website. Other than "out of stock" it mentions nothing of being discontinued.

I sure hope this has all been a blown up misunderstanding then. I just sent them an email, wanna hear this straight from the horse's mouth and not internet hysteria. If I'm wrong I have some apologizing to do as I think there's been a few panic attacks here

 

[Schw15]

The imr line is 100% no more it's gone. They told me this summer it was gone and a replacement was coming maybe this is what they were talking about. I'm excited to have another option

 

[biednick]

Wow, now let's see how hard it's going to be to get any lol
I wonder what the burn rate is going to be compared to others?

StaBall 6.5 has been reasonably easy to find through the whole shortage.

 

[biednick]

Hodgdon fire has been internet rumor for every powder shortage. But, can someone provide a news story link confirming? Nope, nothing - crickets. You can find said rumor virtually on every website but never a link. Heck, it would be Hodgdon's best interest to post complete story to take pressure off them but nope no News Release.

The Goex black powder factory burned last year. Hodgdon owned it at the time. I think a lot of people heard about the Goex fire and knew it was one of Hodgdon's brands, but didn't know it wasn't a smokeless powder factory.

 

[Hydra6]

StaBall 6.5 has been reasonably easy to find through the whole shortage.

Yes, I moved to Staball65 as alternative to H4350 during recent powder shortages. Staball65 normally available

 

[Muddyboots]

What is sad about the Goex plant is it was the LAST black powder manufacturing plant in the USA. So no more Goex but Hodgdon buys Western including Blackhorn 209.......at $77.99 at MidwayUSA for 8 lousy oz. PV has it for $69 as well. so $138/lb. Thank you Hodgdon!

 

[Bghunter338]

StaBall 6.5 has been reasonably easy to find through the whole shortage.

Yes and it's a great powder. I'm using it in my 7mm-08 with 150gr ablrs at little over 2900. It's the HD one I'm interested in now.

 

[Muddyboots]

I wonder when this new StaBall line is up will it have a cross reference to Enduron?

 

[biednick]

What is sad about the Goex plant is it was the LAST black powder manufacturing plant in the USA. So no more Goex but Hodgdon buys Western including Blackhorn 209.......at $77.99 at MidwayUSA for 8 lousy oz. PV has it for $69 as well. so $138/lb. Thank you Hodgdon!

They're coming back. Someone else, I think a company out of CO, bought the plant and the brand with the intent of repairing the plant and bringing Goex back to market.

 

[Calvin45]

I sure hope this has all been a blown up misunderstanding then. I just sent them an email, wanna hear this straight from the horse's mouth and not internet hysteria. If I'm wrong I have some apologizing to do as I think there's been a few panic attacks here

Sorry gents. They got back to me.

 

[Calvin45]

I wonder when this new StaBall line is up will it have a cross reference to Enduron?

That'd be nice

 

[Justice1327]

I look forward to more options. Having good results with STABALL 65 in my 65Creedmoor and 260 - for target work but for higher velocity hunting loads than H4350.

We need a "Varget" alternative - hope STABALL match or whatever is a candidate for that Varget alternative

I found that Shooters World Precision is a close match for Varget and Long Rifle a close match for H4350. I know the below link for the chart doesnt show Long Rifle matching up to the 4350 burn rate, but I found it does. Additionally, I later read an article that stated similar results.

Bulk Propellant - Ammunition | Shooters World

Shooters World provides bulk propellants to FFL Class 6 Ammunition loaders, small and large. Visit us in Upstate, South Carolina.

shootersworldpowder.com

Varget: https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2022/10/12/shooters-world-precision-powder-replacement-varget/