New Cartridge 6.8 Western

[Lou270]

Very cool. I just had a 8 twist 270 WSM tube put on Kimber Montana. Excited that this and some of the other new 277 rounds will generate some more long range bullet options.

 

[Deleted member 115654]

277 Fury has eclipsed all other 277s. Just waiting on my SIG crossbolt.

 

[AggieHunter]

The new 165ablr would be a good fit in the new cartridge. But it's not enough to make me go to a 270. Nothing wrong with the good old 270. Yep. Nothing wrong with the good old 308 and 3006 either. Except they are boring. In building custom rifles for 30 yrs and I've built one 308 and one 3006 and I don't even own a 270 reamer because not one person asked for one yet. The guy that bought the 308 already called me and said he should of listened to me and did a 6.5creed. But he already had a 30 dollar die set. And some used brass. So he stayed with 308 for those reasons.
Shep

Have you had trouble the ABLR throwing a round when you shoot 3 or 4 shot groups? I can't get a consistent grouping from the Nosler's long range bullets and afraid to use them while hunting. Shooting them on the range isn't a big deal but I don't want to lose an animal in the field.

 

[25WSM]

I just recently was tuning a customers 300rum with 210ablr and the gun didn't like them. Switched to 230 bergers and now it's a hammer. The accubonds had 2 fliers in every 5 shot group. No ryme or reason on which ones were the fliers. Tried 3 powders with them and gave up. I've had pretty good luck getting regular accubonds to shoot great. They kill good also.
Shep

 

[AggieHunter]

Glad to know that I'm not alone in geting frustrated at Nosler for their LR bullets. I have always had great success with the traditional Accubond bullet.

 

[25WSM]

I'm sure there are guys shooting the ablrs perfect just as there are guys that can't get bergers to shoot. It still boils down to what your gun liked. Sometimes what you like and what it liked is not the same. Hate when that happens.
Shep

 

[nocannons]

The same situation applies to 22-250. Gunmakers would only make either 12 or 14 twist barrels and missed out on an opportunity to make what i consider a great cartridge even better. By not getting on the fast twist heavy for caliber high bc bullets companies have missed a golden opportunity.

 

[Deleted member 115654]

The 22-250 is a VARMINT cartridge. There are far better choices to hunt big game.

 

[25WSM]

And shooting heavier high bc bullets at long distance varmints would be easier than standard 55 gr bullets. Especially if it's windy. You can get factory fast twist in 223 but not in 22-250. The 22-250 could be awesome with an 8 twist. The advantage of some of the new cartridges is they come with the correct twist for the higher bc bullets.
Shep

 

[Deleted member 115654]

6mm rem or 243 AI blows 22-250 away.

 

[Goldengun]

Till the bullet companies bring out more 257 and 277 bullets these are not viable long range calibers. Especially when I can just go up .007 and have a 7mm with a huge assortment of long range bullets. Or go up the same .007 from a 25 and have a 6.5 with a huge assortment. Amazing what .007 can do. Till then the 270 and 257 will be forgotten by most of the true long range crowd. Sucks for me because I'm a huge 257wby fan. So I can do a fast twist 257 and have one bullet or go to 6.5 and have over a dozen. Same goes for the 270. Yes I think a 6.5 wsm would easily out sell any 270 made.
Shep

Very cool. I just had a 8 twist 270 WSM tube put on Kimber Montana. Excited that this and some of the other new 277 rounds will generate some more long range bullet options.

Your stealing my idea!

 

[25WSM]

6.5saum blows away the 6mm and 243ai. Where does it end? Most 6mms have a crappy twist rate and can't shoot heavies. Most 243s only have a 9 and still can't shoot a 105 hybrid or vld. Heck the 6creed beats the 6mm and 243 easily. The proper twist can make all the difference between 2 cartridges. Doesn't matter what cartridge can beat what. But each cartridge can be optimized with the correct twist for modern bullets. That's why the 243 lived and the 6mm collected dust. Today's world the heavier high bc bullets rule for long range and if you don't have the twist needed you can't reap the benefits of these new bullets. Ballistically a 22-250 with a fast twist shooting 90 gr bullets will eat a regular 6mm and 243ais lunch at 1000 yards. Put an 8 twist on the 6s and things change in a hurry.
Shep

 

[ntsqd]

Maybe we need to make some dies to swage DRAW those heavy for caliber 7mm bullets down to .277? And those heavy for caliber 6.5's down to .257?

Maybe that's what it will take to wake up the bullet mfg's!

Edited for incorrect word.

 

[del2les]

And shooting heavier high bc bullets at long distance varmints would be easier than standard 55 gr bullets. Especially if it's windy. You can get factory fast twist in 223 but not in 22-250. The 22-250 could be awesome with an 8 twist. The advantage of some of the new cartridges is they come with the correct twist for the higher bc bullets.
Shep

Actually, a few years back, there were a couple of factory rifles with a 1/9 tw in 22-250. I bought a Savage 12 BVSS-LP with one, and since the 1/9 did not sell well, I received a sizable discount to purchase the rifle. After fire lapping and a trigger job, it would shoot the 75 AMAX and Bergers at 3,300fps and into .2-.25" ragged holes.

Currently, I have a couple of 22-250 and 22-250AI's with 1/8 tw barrels, and as you stated, they are fantastic LR shooters with 80's and some 90's. I have even used the 22-250AI on the 1 mile line.