I ran the brass through the Western die and made sure the shoulder was bumped back .002" from fired factory brass. I didn't neck turn as I don't have the equipment, but Norma seems pretty consistent. I know I said ADG, I was confused as I bought ADG for my 300 WSM at the same time. I did run a mandrel in it though. I then loaded it to the min charge for powder and bullet weight I could find. Fire forming pushes the should out as the 7mm SAUM and 6.8 Western have different shoulder angles. It's like fire forming .280 AI from .280 Rem brass in this aspect.