New 7mm cartridge from Federal

[Bob Wright]

Ultimately, ignore the hype and let the consumers of this sport decide what works or doesn't. It's capitalism at its finest. I'll be an interested observer. I certainly have a lot of reloading questions rather than boxed ammo questions. Federal is rolling the dice with the consumer. I don't see the hybrid 277 Fury brass/steel cartridges floating around for sale. I don't know anyone that owns a firearm for it.
We shall see with the BC cartridge.

 

[fseaman.js]

I can't find the post that had the link to Ron Spomer's video. It has some new things.

They show a sectioned 7mm BC case. It is as I copied from the provided drawings.

Thick wall at the base but actually very thin in the upper body, shoulder and neck. The primer pocket does not look special. We should get more on that when the "how to reload" is worked out.

This "new" technology may actually work out.

 

[liber]

The epoxy on carbon fiber stuff is very UV susceptible. It could very well be an issue someday. My carbon fiber wheels need to be recertified every 5 years.

Agreed, but many of them are milled and don't have seams. Many could stay in a closet most of their life, that we don't know, or inside a case when not in use. I don't know, just what I know working with wood. It moves constantly, with the climate, even after it is cut. I'm sure many of those stocks are dry as a rock and most likely don't change much, but nobody can guarantee that, that's all I'm saying.

The verdict is out on carbon or any other synthetic material. Wood is not a problem for me as anything I build only needs to last another 20-25 years if I'm lucky. I'm gonna keep eating game meat. But my money is on carbon fiber lasting longer than wood. There are various things that could happen, like cracking, separating, etc...so yeah, not known for certain.

 

[Bob Wright]

Alterra said primers were backing out. Never mentioned a retention groove in the pocket. Never mentioned the concave primers either. So what did Federal do? These were primer "locking" devices covered in the patent for this cartridge. Among a whole bunch of patents incorporated, what do they actually have?

 

[PapaSmurf22]

Seems like something I'll pass on…

 

[Turpentine21]

So the 280 and the 28 nosler operate at the same pressure but the 28 nosler eats barrels. Larger powder column and longer combustion and more velocity. Personally I would think it will be closer to say a 7mag because of the increased velocity but not as bad as the 28 nosler because of the smaller powder charge. In a video they claim it's similar to the 280 but I'm a little skeptical. Still the average hunter will never see it.

The good thing is I'm quite a bit away from even thinking I might need one one day. I don't need anything near that strong. Although I may buy a 300 win mag one day just to say that I have one but then I'd likely never shoot it. I just can't get past the 80,000 psi being a good thing for the gun and barrel. But it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. It'll also be interesting to see how much the ammo costs and also what the reloading possibilities are.

 

[cajun]

The good thing is I'm quite a bit away from even thinking I might need one one day. I don't need anything near that strong. Although I may buy a 300 win mag one day just to say that I have one but then I'd likely never shoot it. I just can't get past the 80,000 psi being a good thing for the gun and barrel. But it will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. It'll also be interesting to see how much the ammo costs and also what the reloading possibilities are.

Midway has the ammo listed at around $65. The ability reload the cases is going to be the deal for me.

 

[JiggyIi]

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Indeed.

My 30-06 is a M1917 Eddystone in a modern stock. I used to shoot it off hand, open sights. Need to check the S/N for YOM

No other 30-06 needed in my collection.

Ive got one in my truck right now!

 

[Turpentine21]

Midway has the ammo listed at around $65. The ability reload the cases is going to be the deal for me.

That's really not so bad in today's world. But it's more than I intend to pay for a box of bullets.
You,re right. The reloadability, cost of components, special components if needed, and availability of those components I think will be the go/no go criteria for a lot of folks.

 

[greene0331]

Is it just me or is this latest endeavor from Federal the possible culprit of the disappearance of RL26?

 

[liber]

Midway has the ammo listed at around $65. The ability reload the cases is going to be the deal for me.

I said a similar thing when Hodgdon was up to $40/lb for most of the popular powders. Have you looked at the price of powder lately? All the Hodgdon popular powders seem to be $60/lb. Before I started to reload, I used to buy 308 ammo for about $15/box. I bet there are old timers on this forum that paid much less. But my point is, go try and find me some 308 ammo for $15/box today.

I will just continue to reload. I have enough reloading components to last me the rest of my life if I limit to a few rounds. It's mostly having the powder on hand, for me. I have plenty of bullets, primers and powder for that matter, just not for 6.5 PRC.

But let's say I didn't have ammo and/or wasn't at my press. It is more likely to find some type of 308 ammo than many others. Nowadays 6.5 Creemdoor is becoming almost as common, so Hornady is doing something right. Now there's 6.5 PRC coming on the scene, and the other PRC cartridges that Hornady was able to get other vendors to start producing.

Will we see 7BC ammo on the shelves in the future? I think anyone's guess is as good as mine.

 

[HRM Johnny]

If anyone gets a rifle and chambers it for this new round; please let us know what the results are.

 

[KNOTFERSAIL]

Someone's preferred camo pattern