Huntnful
Well-Known Member
You also man!it's all good brother. Just don't want to stir things up. Have a good weekend!
You also man!it's all good brother. Just don't want to stir things up. Have a good weekend!
I've installed 2. They work great but not pretty. But it's the low cost easy button, especially if you don't want the barrel permanently changed.Is there any value to a Bolt On Muzzle Break??? If its annoying or just useless, just take it off. Maybe?????
Bench or prone is not where brakes shine vs suppressors. Impacts are easier to see in general from a solid positionI did a quick test yesterday at the range. I have a Hawkins Ti 3 port brake on a 280AI and compared it to TBAC Ultra 7 from the bench. Spotting hits were not any easier with the brake at least for me. The brake actually knocked my Garmin Xero over. It was a covered range station and the concussion and ear splitting sound of the braked shot probably introduces more flinch IMO. The brake looks great and probably does reduce felt recoil, but that will probably be my last shot with it on the rifle unless I am shooting in a place that does not allow suppressors. Thinking back the $320 I spent on the brake and contour work was probably one of my worst decisions on the rifle build.
In your opinion what's the advantage of hanging this thing off your barrel if it doesn't supress? Keep in mind the mass of us who care none about concussion or blast but are concerned with ultimate RECOIL REDUCTION. Is it safe to assume it doesn't tame recoil like an optimally designed brake? Essentially it's for the guys who care less about recoil reduction and more about their buddy's complaints? Just like a hybrid supressor/brake....seems it does neither good and does both averageMy Ultimate Muzzle Brake with Style…….
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Reduces felt recoil, no concussive blast, no obnoxious noise, able to spot impacts, big game & fellow shooter / hunter friendly, does not cause shooter to close eyes & flinch, not harmful to shooter eyes & brain. Etc.
And Very Stylish !!!
Touche. So what does is do best? So try and take your own personal biased against brakes out of the equation (because you may flinch or blink, or whatever it is you could say other people do). If a guy is looking for the best RECOIL REDUCTION.....is this the correct unit to hang off his barrel or would he be better off with a brake....im not asking with biased. I'm curious if ditching my muzzle brake for this contraption would reduce RECOIL more than my brakes? Logic tells me no. It appears it does an average job at recoil reduction (compared to a brake)...which is not what we are looking for with regards to the best RECOIL REDUCTIONI listed recoil reduction as a benefit as well as eliminating concussive blast which is a bigger problem than recoil. Recoil is managed with more than adding a brake. Also I don't hang anything off the end of my barrel. If your trying to do that with your suppressor, your doing it wrong. Thread it on.
get rid of the concussive effects of a brake & you'll be amazed on how you perceived recoil.
I'd dare say most shooters with brakes don't realize they are actually instinctively flinching & or blinking their eyes at the shot. It's a natural protective human response.
YMMV.
Now if you can convince the d-bags running my state these are not the boogy man and make them legal. I would go buy one tomorrow if I could. We don't all live in "free" states, so we use what we got....My Ultimate Muzzle Brake with Style…….
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Reduces felt recoil, no concussive blast, no obnoxious noise, able to spot impacts, big game & fellow shooter / hunter friendly, does not cause shooter to close eyes & flinch, not harmful to shooter eyes & brain. Etc.
And Very Stylish !!!
I was in the "I don't need a suppressor camp" for a long time. Recoil mitigation can be measured with various brakes. I'm sure the top level brakes will fare better in scientific measurements than a suppressor. However, the perceived recoil and the human response to the shot is where suppressors shine IMO. It was one thing where my stubbornness cost me more than $$$. My hearing is very poor now. I want to save what little I have left.Touche. So what does is do best? So try and take your own personal biased against brakes out of the equation (because you may flinch or blink, or whatever it is you could say other people do). If a guy is looking for the best RECOIL REDUCTION.....is this the correct unit to hang off his barrel or would he be better off with a brake....im not asking with biased. I'm curious if ditching my muzzle brake for this contraption would reduce RECOIL more than my brakes? Logic tells me no. It appears it does an average job at recoil reduction (compared to a brake)...which is not what we are looking for with regards to the best RECOIL REDUCTION
Understood, maybe I worded it incorrectly.I was in the "I don't need a suppressor camp" for a long time. Recoil mitigation can be measured with various brakes. I'm sure the top level brakes will fare better in scientific measurements than a suppressor. However, the perceived recoil and the human response to the shot is where suppressors shine IMO. It was one thing where my stubbornness cost me more than $$$. My hearing is very poor now. I want to save what little I have left.