MRAD vs MOA. Which one?

gilkison said:
Mrad is a more course adjustment. There will never be a case where that isn't true.
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for the most part yes, however, I think there are some scopes out there that have .05MRAD clicks which would be a finer adjustment than 1/4MOA clicks. They are fairly rare though and I think mostly used for benchrest comp. I'm guessing the majority of benchrest folks have moved to 1/8th MOA click scopes though which is even finer and I think a little more common these days. I dont benchrest much so I'm no expert in this area though.
 
MTbackwoods said:
All good info and appreciated. Another good point I read in a comparison article said with Mils, you're mainly focusing on 2 numbers rather than 4. Like 6.4 rather than 21.75. And there's 2.54 cm in 1 inch so the conversion isn't t super hard and would get easier with time. It's hard to decide though because I know MOA and it is easy for me. But so many people use Mils in competitions. Decisions, decisions
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What difference does it make what others are using in competitions?
I started with MOA on my old Leupold scopes (I click = 1/4"), and stuck to MOA with my NF scopes. I am very comfortable thinking in inches and MOA as I translate a miss at 400 or 500 yds to scope adustment, so I'm sticking to MOA.
 
MTbackwoods said:
Well this is getting kind of out of hand. Any recommendations for scopes in the $700 range? And that's a pretty hard limit. I had to beg and plead to get the fiancée to agree to $700. So I can't really go higher
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gilkison said:
Mrad is a more course adjustment. There will never be a case where that isn't true.
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True. However, for MOA, you have to deal with the calculation to mechanical transition error. For instance, the calculation may give a 10.6 MOA solution and you have to decide whether to click to 10.5 or 10.75. Either way, this error pretty much destroys the "MOA is a more precise system" argument. You may say that the error is insignificant, and I agree that it is, but it's induced error nonetheless.

Whether it be mils or MOA, it is practically impossible for even the best of shooters to distinguish a difference between 3.6" per click with Mils or 2.6" per click with MOA at 1000 yards.

There really is no wrong answer here. Use what you're comfortable with.
 
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T3ninja said:
Haha you'd think that, but I was looking at sig tango 6 3-18 and the MIL DEVL (I think) reticle was over $200 more than the others :mad:
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Some reticles cost more than others in different scopes. It applies to MOA models in some brands as well. The price difference has nothing to do with mils and MOA.
 
PNWdude67 said:
Most of the calibers and projectiles we use in LR hunting are capable of velocities and BC that will have a dial up of less than 8 mils at 1000 yards. The 109 berger moving at 2800 FPS is 8.2. Dial up From a 6 BRA chambered barrel. The 150 grain class bullets and the 180 class in my 6.5 and 7 short mags have about a 6.5 mil come up. (100 yard zero)
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This was my way of thinking. MOA would get me to 1,075 on the first rotation where MIL would get me to 1,300. Then I could get to a mile on less than two rotation of MIL while needing nearly 2.5 rotations with MOA. But I may just stick with MOA for now
 
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Tulsa Reiner said:
Today, I received an email from Eurooptic announcing a sale on Vortex Strike Eagle 4-24x50 EBR-4 MOA for $379.99
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Thanks for the heads up. That's actually really tempting but I really want 25 MOA per rev. All the steel I shoot is beyond 700 yards which would put me into the second rev on that scope. But I appreciate you looking out
 
Tulsa Reiner said:
What difference does it make what others are using in competitions?
I started with MOA on my old Leupold scopes (I click = 1/4"), and stuck to MOA with my NF scopes. I am very comfortable thinking in inches and MOA as I translate a miss at 400 or 500 yds to scope adustment, so I'm sticking to MOA.
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If you are thinking in inches, then you are doing it wrong.

MRAD users don't think in centimeters, they think in MRADS (MILS). That is one of the main reasons that shooters who learn to use MILS don't go back. Since Americans don't think in centimeters, it is easier for them to let loose of that uneccessary step of converting a linear measurement into an angular one.

If you are determined to stick with MOA, then learn to think in MOA. Your drop in MOA, your wind in MOA, your corrections in MOA. If you have to "think inches" then you haven't evolved your technique past what we always had to do when duplex reticles were all that was available.
 
Dog Rocket said:
If you are thinking in inches, then you are doing it wrong.
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Not necessarily.

I and at least one other person that replied to this post use them to measure targets.

Moa to inches @ xxx yards is much easier math for me to do in my head than mil to inches @xxx yards. If you're somone that measures things in metric, the math is easier if you use mrad.

I pick what's easiest to do quickly under field conditions.
 
XSIVSPD said:
Not necessarily.

I and at least one other person that replied to this post use them to measure targets.

Moa to inches @ xxx yards is much easier math for me to do in my head than mil to inches @xxx yards. If you're somone that measures things in metric, the math is easier if you use mrad.

I pick what's easiest to do quickly under field conditions.
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Measure what? Are you mil'ing a target in moa? Where in your long range shooting does inches in linear measurements come into play AT DISTANCE?
 
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