Just to bring a thread back from the dead....I purchase guns when i can get them for a deal, then I or a qualified smith (read: have someone who knows what the hell they are doing, ie not me) work on them into one hole wonders. The only rifle I have not had to F with are my Savage 16 in .308. The savage I am VERY impressed with. I thought it was really good when it rewarded me with 1/2" groups....Then I handed it to a buddy of mine who just got out of the Corps.......His groups at 200 were the same as mine at 100.....Fing bastard.. This was with factory ammo Hornady match 168gr BTHP. My Rem 700 300 win mag performance was dismal, at its best I got 1.5" at 100 with good match ammo. with the cheap stuff I got 3" consistently. It is hopefully going to get a new tube and stock, and bedding job. If it doesn't shoot well after that I will give up and sell it to get a custom action. I just really hate giving up on a gun that should be a tack driver. I find it strange how a gun that costs a significant amount more than a savage doesn't shoot nearly as well. I really hope it is just a fluke in the bunch.