Mark's Glock was empty

[CoachChris]

https://www.wyofile.com/10mm-glock-fully-functional-in-fatal-grizzly-attack/

 

[just country]

morning, I own and operate 3 10mm glocks,. 1 glock 21 45
1 glock 40cal. long slide,and 1 colt delta elite
10mm. collected the colt, use the glocks I am a firm
believer in the glocks for easy use. NEVER had a problem
with glocks. all models I have operated. I prefer
glocks over other model semi auto's. less moving parts.
one note sig's r very good weapons. all my
glocks have 6" barrels. justme ghot tum

 

[Mike 338]

I can envision how a person would want to remove his chest rig when cutting up an elk, or any extra weight for that matter. I can now also see how that can be exactly the time you would do that, hindsight being 20/20. Maybe a light paddle holster while processing game.

 

[J E Custom]

I don;t know why the Glock did not work, but it does say something about the use of bear spray and also the use of a revolver that could give you 5 or 6 chances of stopping something intent on killing you.

I love all of my semi autos but carry something that if it don't fire the first time i pull the trigger I simply pull it again and get a new chance.

Stopping power is important but reliability is more important in my opinion. Reliability in my opinion is something that works without being to familiar with it and is natural even to a non shooter.

The lesson I got from this post is carry something that will stop the threat, ware it all times and especially when cleaning big game in bear country. And keep the spray for Anti fa.

Just my opinion

J E CUSTOM

 

[Mike 338]

I don;t know why the Glock did not work, but it does say something about the use of bear spray and also the use of a revolver that could give you 5 or 6 chances of stopping something intent on killing you.

I love all of my semi autos but carry something that if it don't fire the first time i pull the trigger I simply pull it again and get a new chance.

Stopping power is important but reliability is more important in my opinion. Reliability in my opinion is something that works without being to familiar with it and is natural even to a non shooter.

The lesson I got from this post is carry something that will stop the threat, ware it all times and especially when cleaning big game in bear country. And keep the spray for Anti fa.

Just my opinion

J E CUSTOM

The article mentioned the magazine being found away from the gun. Speculated the gun was carried on an empty chamber and the hunter pressed the mag release when looking for the external safety, which it doesn't have. Seems reasonable to me. Pull the trigger... no bang... look for safety.

 

[yoteslayer]

I agree with J E the simpler the better if you notice most people in Alaska carry revolvers plus they have more stopping power with the right caliber you should also practice before trusting your life with it big revolvers can be hard to control just my 2 cents

 

[Ndfarmer]

OSHA is so stupid it hurts! If you aren't smart enough to get job in real world work for the government. It's really easy to say what some one should have done after the fact. Just wait and they will call for a 10 man escort for any guided hunt. I pray for the family and hope we all learned from what happened.

 

[middleofnowhere]

Are there any documented cases of anyone using a handgun to thwart a grizzly attack?

I've just done a rudimentary google search and I can't find anything. Also, there are very few documented cases of bear spray actually thwarting attacks. I can find a few cases where a rifle/shotgun stopped a bear's charge after being wounded while hunting.

Last year my cousin and a buddy had a brown bear sow bluff charge them several times. They inadvertently crossed paths with her cub, who crossed their trail with a salmon in it's mouth. They stood their ground with weapons drawn until she and the cub left the area. He said it was one of the most hair raising events of his life. He was carrying a 454 casul and his buddy had a 44 mag, neither fired a shot.

Years ago a buddy used a paintball gun to harass black bears who were tearing up trash cans at a popular camp site. The paint balls were the "pepper" kind. They had a little sow chase them when they peppered her and her two cubs coming out of a dumpster. Their guns were full auto and they had dozens of hits on the bears, even in the face.

Thankfully I've never had a brown or grizzly encounter. The few times I've hunted in that terrain I always felt safe with just my rifle. I'm looking at a carry gun now though.

 

[yoteslayer]

I know a few years ago fish and game officer can't remember state but was releasing a bear from a trap that was in back of P U truck when the bear turned and climbed up the trap to get officer pulled him to ground he pulled out a 357 and killed the bear not sure of his officers injuries

 

[Mike 338]

Are there any documented cases of anyone using a handgun to thwart a grizzly attack?

I've just done a rudimentary google search and I can't find anything. Also, there are very few documented cases of bear spray actually thwarting attacks. I can find a few cases where a rifle/shotgun stopped a bear's charge after being wounded while hunting.

Last year my cousin and a buddy had a brown bear sow bluff charge them several times. They inadvertently crossed paths with her cub, who crossed their trail with a salmon in it's mouth. They stood their ground with weapons drawn until she and the cub left the area. He said it was one of the most hair raising events of his life. He was carrying a 454 casul and his buddy had a 44 mag, neither fired a shot.

Years ago a buddy used a paintball gun to harass black bears who were tearing up trash cans at a popular camp site. The paint balls were the "pepper" kind. They had a little sow chase them when they peppered her and her two cubs coming out of a dumpster. Their guns were full auto and they had dozens of hits on the bears, even in the face.

Thankfully I've never had a brown or grizzly encounter. The few times I've hunted in that terrain I always felt safe with just my rifle. I'm looking at a carry gun now though.

Sure, there have been plenty of incidents where an attack was thwarted by a handgun. I read of one just last year of a guy doing it with a 9mm. Plenty of incidents that went the other way too. A big determined aggressive animal can run through a good deal of firepower. Seems to me I read of hunters barely able to raise his rifle and get off a shot into the dirt before he gets freight-trained and he and his rifle go flying. Having something on your belt at that point might give you a chance.

Brown bears... scary.

 

[Plinker147]

Even if the glock was loaded and he was able to shoot the end result would likely be the same other than the bear would have died too. When a bear goes to predatory mode brown or black, bear spray likely wouldn't have worked either. Bear spray works but for what ever reason when the bears flip the switch to attack the only thing that will stop them is a CNS hit. Just an unfortunate situation for those guys, RIP.

But if you are carrying for protection it needs to be loaded and you need to practice using it from where you carry it. The poor guy might not have had time to get it out of his holster if he had it ready-before the bear was on him. Sometimes it's just fate.

 

[J E Custom]

The point I was trying to make was to be as prepared as possible and eliminate as many possibilities of failure as possible.

There will always be the what if's and he should haves. but the truth is it still happens and if anything good can come of it, We learn a lesson that might just save our life or someone else's.

Everyone will have their favorite fire are to carry but they have to evaluate the possibilities of what "could" happen and be as prepared
as possible.

J E CUSTOM

 

[middleofnowhere]

Here are a couple articles i found changing up the google search. The ammoland article is what I was hoping to find.

https://www.wideopenspaces.com/alaska-man-kills-charging-brown-bear-with-a-9mm-pistol/

https://www.ammoland.com/2018/02/de...s-rate-37-incidents-by-caliber/#axzz5Xn51KSXZ

 

[eklarsen]

And that's why you should only carry a revolver in bear country.