March Scopes, Tough Enough?

idcwby

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Not to derail a different threads, I thought I would start this one. On the thread toughest long range scopes, March is hardly mentioned. When March does get brought up in other threads everyone talks about how great and tough they are. Are they really as tough as a Nightforce, US Optics, etc.?

I haven't had any instances with my March yet to claim it's a tough scope, but it has done everything I have asked of it.

Thanks
idcwby
 
I've put a lot of rounds through two F1's in five or so years and have had zero problems. I won't say they are bullet proof, but mine have been involved in bumps serious enough that I checked my zero, but found no change.
 
My March 2.5x25x52 has seen quite a bit of use for the last three years. It has bounced around in trucks and quads, took a few falls and bangs, subjected to rain, dust, and snow, and subjected to the very inconsiderate airlines/handlers. Tracking has been perfect, and I have not had to re-zero when I reached my destinations.
Given its 40% lighter then an ATAC-R, USO, or S&B PMII, I have been quite impressed with its ruggedness and reliability.
 
I have 6 of them. And I have has issues with two. One had some coating from the inside of the scope tube come loose and was visible then looking through. The second had an issue holding zero. I sent both back to March and the were fixed with a very detailed work sheet attached. Both, and all the other scopes have been well used with no other problems, and one of them has been truly abused with absolutely no problems.

John
 
I'm interested in March, but see negative posts on other sites about them not holding zero and other issues. Never read or see anything regarding Nightforce or S&B. And I'd attest to the same with both my NXS and S&B...
 
I'm interested in March, but see negative posts on other sites about them not holding zero and other issues. Never read or see anything regarding Nightforce or S&B. And I'd attest to the same with both my NXS and S&B...

I would call the above the poster child of a bogus post.

I seriously doubt the person has any interest in March scopes but uses that comment as cover for unfounded claims about seeing posts on other (unnamed sites) about not holding zero and other (unnamed) issues. Then he adds another claim that he never sees anything bad about Nightforce or S&B.
Wow.

I have been aware of and following March scopes for about 10 years now. They are legendary in how they hold zero, track perfectly and are strong as anything out there. I frequent a lot of shooting optics boards and have never hear of anyone reporting a March not holding zero. Ever.

About 9 years ago, I decided to get really serious about F-class and spent serious money building a suitable match rifle and topping it with a Nightforce NXS 12-42X56. I was a little worried because that year at TSRA there had been three, count them, 3 NF NXS which had taken a dive and sidelined the shooters. Fortunately my NXS did not give me any issues and I used for 3 years at which point I upgraded it to a March-X 5-50X56. The NXS simply was too dark at 40X for my aging eyes in the early morning competitions. I had always known that Nightforce was not the best in light transmittance but now it was getting in my way. The March-X cured the problem for me.

Over the last 6 years with my March-X, I took part in over 100 competitions around the continent, most are one day club matches, but there were plenty of state, regional, national and two world competitions. I have fired about 20,000 full-load FTR rounds guided by that scope and it never burbed, or given me any cause for worry; it just performed.

Some months back, I sent it back to March to change the reticle from the original MTR-2 to the identical but thicker MTR-5 and it was back in my hands inside of three weeks. They had cleaned it up and calibrated everything as part of the service and reported that they had tweaked the focus at long range. I had never noticed anything amiss but I will not argue with the manufacturer who has the equipment to detect that, especially since it didn't cost me anything to had it checked and fixed. The reticle swap was $275, before you ask.

The scope was delivered back directly to my house and looked like new. It went back on the rifle,I dialed back the original adjustments and I was on paper, in the black, on the first shot at 1000 yards but now with a new reticle that my aging eyes could discern well.

Over the last 5 years, I have come to learn a lot about March scopes and the way they are made. These scopes are immensely strong, especially all the ones with a 34mm tube. The thickness of the tube is 4mm compared to the 2mm of the 30mm tubes, including the Nightforces. The March scope bodies are machined from aluminum bar stock, not press molded like other scopes. All March scope bodies are made the same way; yes, it is a more costly way of shaping a tube and quite wasteful in material (which does get recycled) but it makes for consistent strong tubes.

The scopes are all hand assembled in a factory in Japan and the quality control is fierce. Yes, they are hard to get, there is a waiting list and not much stock. The yearly production numbers are shockingly low, but man are they ever amazing scopes.

No, they are not for everybody; they are very expensive but they are ultra reliable and worth the wait, so plan accordingly if you want a specific model.
 
My 3-24x42 has held zero and no issues for 4 years of shooting on large light magnums as well as a lot of hunting. Zero gripes other than the sensitive eyebox and parallax.
The 3-24X42 is an awesome scope, exceedingly well suited for hunting.

March makes them in two models, the 3-24X42 and the 3-24X52. The 42mm will have a more critical eyebox at higher magnifications, which is why it's also available in a 52mm objective for those who would be using the higher mags more often. For hunting, where you want a trimmer package I can surely see why the 42mm is the better choice, but that is a compromise.

For the parallax issue, that is probably due to the high zoom ratio (8X) and is more apparent in the higher magnification and you might want to consider getting a March add-on focus wheel that will make the focus knob easier to manipulate and giving you greater focus granularity. No need to get the outer wheel, but the middle part would work great for you.

I had the 3.5 inch focus wheel on my March-X because have arthritis in my left hand and I do go back and forth between 600 and 1000 yards to check the mirage before taking the shot and I had that specific distance painted on the wheel. Makes it very easy to go back and forth quickly.
 
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Do you have to send the scopes back to Japan for service?

and

are repair cost reasonable or did you feel over charged?
Thanks
 
Do you have to send the scopes back to Japan for service?

and

are repair cost reasonable or did you feel over charged?
Thanks
The scopes go back to Japan for repair as they are argon filled. There is a mechanism to send the scopes to a US location that then forwards it to Japan. It comes back to you directly from Japan.

Their warranty is 10 years from the date of manufacture, irrespective of ownership. If it's a defect in the scope, they fix it for free. They will also honor that past the 10 years. making it it lifetime. If it's something you did to the scope, they will communicate back with you about the cost and what needs to be done. These scopes are STRONG, you have to really abuse them for something to happen. I would suspect the repair costs are proper, I just have never heard of anyone paying for repairs of March scopes. I'll try to find out more about those costs while at SHOT, but they have never worried me, or even crossed my mind to be honest.
 
I can share my experiences.

I've said this elsewhere on the forum but my 3-24x42 ffp is sweet. It's on a 7rum that's around 7lbs scoped, shooting 180gr Bergers at ~3150fps for about 8yrs now. Brake makes it easy. It's a hunting rifle, that's it, so round count is low compared to bench shooters but it has been beat on the mountain, from coues in Mexico to Canada sheep and caribou. Always is on, always. I'll post a pic later but I smacked the top turret, not sure when, but I think falling in a river in NWT and hit hard enough to push the turret and bend it inward. I killed stuff afterward for another year or 2 as is. It's still on and tracks. It's got all kinds of other dings and scratches. I love it

I just need to get around to sending off for repairs. It has the FML 1. My only complaint so far is that I wish the reticle was finer like their other FML. Only reason is if I'm practicing out at 800 or 1000yds, with the magnification all the was up, the size of the dot covers too much target for me. Maybe I can have them swap it out if I send it back for repairs.
 
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