Jakeweb09
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I've got one with a 22" benchmark carbon. Sweet roundI'm fixing to chamber a 25 saum in a 20" shortly. Just got the reamer in this week. May do that today. Your post got me itching to do it.
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Looking for best short barrel performance cartridge
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I was gonna do a 6mm saum but I have a reamer for 6mm PRC so I just went that route.
We're on the same page…last two reamers I've had delivered from JGS…6prc and 25 saum. I've never had a quarterbore either and figured why not. Brux barrel was delivered last week, it's on the list.
Back to OP…I don't like long barrels, 22" is about as long as I go on personal rifles and those are typically big magnums.
16" 7-08ai, h4320, 120 ballistic tip, 2960fps
16" 6.5 saum, mr4000, 130 hvld 2950…123 scenar @ 3050 (same powder) I've done 3 of these, someone has wanted them worse than I did…they've been nicknamed Nasty
18" 22 Gaymoor h4350 80.5 freebore 3150fps
20" 22 Gaymoor h4350 80.5 3300fps
20" 6 Gaymoor h4350 105 hybrid 3000fps
The 25 saum and 6prc I mentioned earlier will also be short barrels. The 6.5 saum is impressive in a 16" barrel and I'll likely always have one. Lately, I grab the 22 Gaymoor more than any of the others though. Just enjoyable to shoot, cool to watch stuff happen in the scope and punches way above its weightclass.
Good luck and look forward to what you decide.
Have a 20" 6.5 PRC - 2815 fps with factory 147 gr ELDM. My tikka CTR with a 24" 6.5 CM is only get 2594 fps with the same bullet. Lots of boost with the 6.5 PRC over the CM.
For deer and BIGGER, 6.5 PRC is as small as I'd care to go in a short barrel. 7 SAUM, 300 WSM would also be good options from what I've read. (I love the 7 mm's, but currently only have a 7 RM. The 7 SAUM and 280 AI have always appealed to me though).
For deer and BIGGER, 6.5 PRC is as small as I'd care to go in a short barrel. 7 SAUM, 300 WSM would also be good options from what I've read. (I love the 7 mm's, but currently only have a 7 RM. The 7 SAUM and 280 AI have always appealed to me though).
I do like the 6.5 prc case as well and have owned a few really accurate 6.5 prc's at that. Nothing wrong with it except for the initial growing pains of chamber, brass, and die specs but that's been getting sorted out. I've been seeing the 7-6.5 prc gain traction too. No surprise there but I'm sticking with my 7 saum. I'm too far down the saum track with dies and brass to switch. That 6.5 prc case was the answer to Remingtons lack of foresight and Hornady has capitalized. I was just ahead of the 6.5 prc with my first 6.5 saum. When I first learned of George Gardner, Pat Sinclair and the other early guys shooting the 6.5 Saum I was hooked and for good reason. In fact this was my first 6.5 saum built by GA Precision before the 6.5 prc was a thing.
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I agree. 6.5 saum > 6.5 PRC
How much more N560 will the 6.5 SAUM handle over the PRC? I'm still using the 58.3 load with the 140 elite hunter in my PRC. Same load gets same speed in my SAUM, both rifles have 20" barrels.
You get to a point from cartridge capacity vs bore diameter etc where something is too overbore and you will burn out a barrel pretty fast. You also need to consider what you are already comfortable shooting from a recoil and muzzle blast perspective, if you are going to be running a can or not, and if you want to reload or not. That said, medium capacity cartridges in 6.5mm/7mm work well for all of the above.
Currently, I have a 16" 7PRC that shoots the 175gr ELD-X @ 2700fps. With a can, it's awesome to shoot.
338 bore (like 338 SS) are even more efficient. I would bet that you could get a 338SS to shoot the 230gr ELD-X at 2700ish fps. I used to have a 19" that would shoot them at 2820fps.
If using a muzzle brake, and double up on ear pro, you could jump up to 300PRC/300RUM capacity and add an additional ,200fps but at the cost of more muzzle blast, more recoil, etc.
Currently, I have a 16" 7PRC that shoots the 175gr ELD-X @ 2700fps. With a can, it's awesome to shoot.
338 bore (like 338 SS) are even more efficient. I would bet that you could get a 338SS to shoot the 230gr ELD-X at 2700ish fps. I used to have a 19" that would shoot them at 2820fps.
If using a muzzle brake, and double up on ear pro, you could jump up to 300PRC/300RUM capacity and add an additional ,200fps but at the cost of more muzzle blast, more recoil, etc.
