Exactly!IMO there would need to be a pressure test done using the same lot brass, primers, powder comparing the different mono bullets by an independent lab to get data on velocity claims.
Exactly!IMO there would need to be a pressure test done using the same lot brass, primers, powder comparing the different mono bullets by an independent lab to get data on velocity claims.
If this is addressed to me, it might take a while as I am doing an actual research study.He has been around a while and they seem to be a good bullet. Only played with the 90gr .25 cal.
When you do do your long range testing can you post the distance and what your bc actually was to get to that distance? I've found my hammers land north of what my applied has in the library. I've ran my 300win mag out to just over 1k 1308 I think and was with the 181 hh 10 twist. 1300 I think is farther than i would try on game with it. 1 k I would.
From what I gather yes it is.Barnes manuals suggest slightly lighter powder charges across the board for their bullets for the increased pressure that's generated. They have the bands that reduce bearing surface too. Is the copper harder in the Barnes bullets?
It was. That's cool and I await results. This kinda stuff is what I like to see. Helps make more informative choices.If this is addressed to me, it might take a while as I am doing an actual research study.
Yes they are quite hardenerBarnes manuals suggest slightly lighter powder charges across the board for their bullets for the increased pressure that's generated. They have the bands that reduce bearing surface too. Is the copper harder in the Barnes bullets?
Check your PM.It was. That's cool and I await results. This kinda stuff is what I like to see. Helps make more informative choices.
Someone would need to get bullets of the same weight and measure the actual bearing surface. I'd also check the diameter as that will affect pressures. Hardness could be checked on hardness tester.Barnes manuals suggest slightly lighter powder charges across the board for their bullets for the increased pressure that's generated. They have the bands that reduce bearing surface too. Is the copper harder in the Barnes bullets?
From the few bullets I have loaded, the badlands bullets end up about like a standard lead hunting bullet as far as maximum achievable velocity, though with different amounts of powder. I have not been able to get them faster, but just in the same general area as standard bullets. The Cayugas I have got way faster than I would expect with a lead bullet, same with the hammer hunters. I have not loaded the absolute hammers, so I can't speak on those.I am glad you chimed in. You just confirmed Cayugas' and Badlands' ability to be pushed at a faster velocity.
Awesome, thanks!From the few bullets I have loaded, the badlands bullets end up about like a standard lead hunting bullet as far as maximum achievable velocity, though with different amounts of powder. I have not been able to get them faster, but just in the same general area as standard bullets. The Cayugas I have got way faster than I would expect with a lead bullet, same with the hammer hunters. I have not loaded the absolute hammers, so I can't speak on those.
As far as load developement for me, the PVA's and Hammers have shaken out about the same, easy. The Badlands, particularly the gen II's, have been more picky, with good accuracy still attainable. However, my maximum range is not 500 yards, I killed my elk at 1036 this year, 882 last year, 860 the year before....my co-hunters have been 980, 1002, 513, 680, and so on for the last few years, so BC matters with that consideration, so that is where the Badlands and cayugas come into play.
Same experience here.This year I tried the gen 2 SBD's, and they have done really good in a .270 Sherman and took 1 pronghorn in my .338 Norma. The SBDII's seem to be a little more picky as far as finding good accuracy, but I have only loaded them in 2 guns so far.
I posted exactly as-is to make a point; one cannot know how fast the bullet can be propelled with the same powder/load configuration. As you noted, an experienced handloader will have to find the best compromise between accuracy and velocity.Not being defensive like I said Here we go again nothing personal you can't compare velocity and bullets the way you posted we all know that the absolute Hammers usually require a faster powder and more of it and get as much as 150 too 200 fps more vel than the Hammer Hunters I've done my homework on the Hammers they are a different animal and a experienced hand loader will find this out when and if they try them my apologies if I offended you have a nice day