Least fussy mono-metal bullet?

[snox801]

Ok I may help.
I've shot Barnes, cutting edge, gs customs, and hammers,
I can tell you without a doubt that hammers are by far the easiest to load for. It's not even close. Load up 5-10 round find pressure back off 1gr and shoot I've never had one not shoot well under and inch
On top of that they are the best performing bullet I've ever shot. In fact I can tell you anyone who still recommends Barnes has never tried hammers. Search my history and you will see my progression on bullets from cup core to Barnes. I was thinking they were great till I tried cutting edge then realized they were better. Only to be outdone by hammer.
So here is my list
Hammer first
Cutting edge second same time do lids as Barnes but better on game and higher bc.
Then gs customs fairly easy to load but getting them was tough and they were only slightly better if at all over Barnes.
At the bottom is Barnes for me. Seemed the hardest to get great groups, and they had some inconsistencies with expansion. Almost like it needs to hit bone. The metal they use is very hard. Several have played with drilling the top to help but not for me.

 

[snox801]

Barnes, easiest bullet I've ever found to make shoot accurate, actually less fussy than traditional bullets.

As my last post you have never tried a hammer sir. I encourage everyone to at least buy the sample pack and see what I mean.
Not just on kids but on game performance.
This is with shorting well over 100 game animals a year.

 

[snox801]

As I said, the unsubstantiated claim needs empirical evidence, esp. when other users have different results. This type of issue/concern is one of the very reasons I always do my own test for any bullets I use for my intended purpose.

I assumed it was well known now that hammers seemed to be a bit faster than Barnes. I've had the same experience with them in a few rilfes but never really cared as much because accuracy and function come first. Second it is hard to find that said data you want with variables. Maybe a bias on my end will make me overlook the first slight bolt lift on one and not the other. So yes you must test them on your own to know for sure but I take some guys word for it.
Many guys on here I would trust. If bean says it's faster I believe him, but if Cody said he had the opposite I would say I believe him. Maybe the rifles liked one better but as an average of those who have used them the softer metal hammer uses and design seem to allow higher FPS over Barnes.

 

[Hard rock]

I assumed it was well known now that hammers seemed to be a bit faster than Barnes. I've had the same experience with them in a few rilfes but never really cared as much because accuracy and function come first. Second it is hard to find that said data you want with variables. Maybe a bias on my end will make me overlook the first slight bolt lift on one and not the other. So yes you must test them on your own to know for sure but I take some guys word for it.
Many guys on here I would trust. If bean says it's faster I believe him, but if Cody said he had the opposite I would say I believe him. Maybe the rifles liked one better but as an average of those who have used them the softer metal hammer uses and design seem to allow higher FPS over Barnes.

They do

 

[kevinmorgan]

Well Bean, backstraps trump just about everything

 

[ButterBean]

Well Bean, backstraps trump just about everything

I blistered on one with the 124HH out of the Rum so I'm happy

 

[FEENIX]

I assumed it was well known now that hammers seemed to be a bit faster than Barnes. I've had the same experience with them in a few rilfes but never really cared as much because accuracy and function come first. Second it is hard to find that said data you want with variables. Maybe a bias on my end will make me overlook the first slight bolt lift on one and not the other. So yes you must test them on your own to know for sure but I take some guys word for it.
Many guys on here I would trust. If bean says it's faster I believe him, but if Cody said he had the opposite I would say I believe him. Maybe the rifles liked one better but as an average of those who have used them the softer metal hammer uses and design seem to allow higher FPS over Barnes.

Exactly my point; let the OP decide, esp. in LRH.

 

[ButterBean]

As I said, the unsubstantiated claim needs empirical evidence, esp. when other users have different results. This type of issue/concern is one of the very reasons I always do my own test for any bullets I use for my intended purpose.

Brother I could get some of the other bullets again and do a side by side test but at this late in the game folks would probably say I just rigged the test cause I'm a Hammer "Fan Boy" so why bother,

 

[FEENIX]

Brother I could get some of the other bullets again and do a side by side test but at this late in the game folks would probably say I just rigged the test cause I'm a Hammer "Fan Boy" so why bother,

Agreed! That's OK; as noted, I will be doing my own tests, esp. in LRH (up to 1K similar to @codyadams and @highdrum ). I have a few different monos on hand and inbound, including GSCs (I could be wrong, but IIRC, they are the first to explore the monos (1992?)).

 

[snox801]

He has been around a while and they seem to be a good bullet. Only played with the 90gr .25 cal.
When you do do your long range testing can you post the distance and what your bc actually was to get to that distance? I've found my hammers land north of what my applied has in the library. I've ran my 300win mag out to just over 1k 1308 I think and was with the 181 hh 10 twist. 1300 I think is farther than i would try on game with it. 1 k I would.

 

[snox801]

Let me also add how I love this site. We can all exchange ideas and preferable components and nobody seems to get upset. We all have better understanding and more info for each person to make the choices best for themself. Just wanna thank everyone for that.

 

[ButterBean]

Let me also add how I love this site. We can all exchange ideas and preferable components and nobody seems to get upset. We all have better understanding and more info for each person to make the choices best for themself. Just wanna thank everyone for that.

X-2

 

[xsn10s]

IMO there would need to be a pressure test done using the same lot brass, primers, powder comparing the different mono bullets by an independent lab to get data on velocity claims.

 

[xsn10s]

Honestly none of that is as important to me as individual rifle accuracy and predicable external and terminal ballistic performance. If you have reliable external/ terminal ballistic data then the shooter can make an informed decision on how to use said bullet.