Lead Poisoning

Northkill said:
Well, I hate to break it to you - there are some advantages to both sides of the coin on this one. The copper guys are working hard at solving the puzzle to even out the shortcomings. Innovation isn't always a bad thing. Guessing you aren't using cast bullets in your long-range rig? Some of us just don't like change and that's not all bad either.🤠
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That's not new news to me. I worked on swiss machines making mono bullets 15 years ago. And I see a lot of innovations with some mono bullets. Concentrically is one benefit. Reducing bearing surface over a given length is another benefit that cannot be done by extruding copper with dies. You can build a true long range bullet with high BC and terminal performance. Other companies have done it. Making a claim and saying it over and over again doesn't make it true. It makes it a slogan, the truth is in the performance.
 
A lot of people have been given a lot of grief with gelatin tests were brought up. I heard it over and over again that gelatin tests don't matter. And what do we see on the video? A gelatin test comparing lead bullets to the mono. It's ironic.
 
xsn10s said:
I don't hate Steve or Hammer Bullets. I don't see any advantage to using them over cup and core, other than to follow a ban. And the premise of the video was to stop using lead bullets before they take away our rights to use them. I've seen this angle before. And it leads to banning or making any item too cost prohibitive. And they'll use science or incomplete science to fit their agenda.
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I think you don't see an advantage to using them because you haven't used them. If you try them and don't like them I will refund your money.

The premise of the video was to show there is a problem and there is solutions. The idea of the video from the producer was not to make a difference by trying to ban lead or facilitate the means to do so. The intent was to let hunters know there is an issue and they can find good alternatives to what they have been using. When you regulate people or tell them that have to stop or else, they will fight back and resist. I am no different. I did not start Hammer Bullets to capitalize on the lead free market. I started this because we were looking for a better hunting bullet that would make our deer nice and dead without blowing them up. That simple. Terminal performance with less meat loss. Our only goal. Period. No agenda. Just hunters that eat what we kill. We found copper bullets in our quest, but they all had an issue that we couldn't deal with. So we made what we thought was the ideal bullet. We are just farm boys that love to hunt. Worked with our backs all of our lives and started a bullet company. I don't want you or anyone else to stop using what you are using because of legislation. I want you to use what Hammer Bullets makes because it works better. If it didn't work better we would not be doing this. In our past careers we strove to do better work and produce a better product than our competitors. Those careers were in the trades. This is no different other than I don't have to bend over all the time and dig holes in the dirt.
 
xsn10s said:
A lot of people have been given a lot of grief with gelatin tests were brought up. I heard it over and over again that gelatin tests don't matter. And what do we see on the video? A gelatin test comparing lead bullets to the mono. It's ironic.
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Once again this has turned into the same old bashing, the video was about wildlife and that's it, this place is pitiful
 
From the 8 minute mark of the video is the whole premise of the video.
RockyMtnMT said:
Did you see the last gel test we did comparing a 215g competitor bullet to a 199g Hammer Hunter? The gel test matters as much as you think that one did.
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So who's the competitor bullet? What is the diameter of the paper clip that you used?
 
So I finally watched the video...I definitely felt it was a hit piece on "irresponsible" lead bullet users. The first minute proved it. It most definitely promotes a ban on lead bullets. The lone comment on the video says it all.

But anyway, if all these eagles are getting lead poisoning from irresponsible hunters then why do they have RECORD population numbers? Shouldn't they have never recovered since we've been using lead bullets for 100+ years?
 
From the 8:00 mark it sounds like he says this: "We face a lot of a environmental issues and as individuals it can be difficult to know how we can deal with those issues. With lead poisoning and wildlife all we have to do is chamber non lead ammunition.".
 
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adam32+P said:
So I finally watched the video...I definitely felt it was a hit piece on "irresponsible" lead bullet users. The first minute proved it. It most definitely promotes a ban on lead bullets. The lone comment on the video says it all.

But anyway, if all these eagles are getting lead poisoning from irresponsible hunters then why do they have RECORD population numbers? Shouldn't they have never recovered since we've been using lead bullets for 100+ years?
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Yep…I'd comment again on the other thread but it disappeared.
 

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