Larger diameter bullets allow more room for error?

[FIGJAM]

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Yes I'm using my hand load data. But I don't have to. This was taken right off of midways website. There is a ton of factory ammo like what I have attached. Run that through your ballistic calculator. It's a 210 Berger hunting bullet at 2992 FPS. And it's factory ammo. That's 200 fps faster than I hand load my 215 Berger's. Like I said, as far as ft lbs of energy the 264 calibers can't keep up.

And I was looking at the weak 300 win mag data. I even own a 300 rum and have never owned a 300 win mag.

 

[Mach 1]

And I was looking at the weak 300 win mag data. I even own a 300 rum and have never owned a 300 win mag.

Not a lot of difference between the 2

 

[Mach 1]

And I'm from the school of "Dead is Dead".

And energy is energy

 

[WildRose]

Like I said, apples to apples. the heavy 264 stuff can't compete with the heavy 308 stuff in terms of energy. This is were we disagree

They don't need to compete in energy. All we need is enough energy for a well placed bullet to perform as designed and desired to have a dead animal.

If it were all about energy we'd all be shooting 50 BMG's, 416, and 375 Cheytac's.

 

[FIGJAM]

Not a lot of difference between the 2

Really? Come on bro - sure there is...

 

[FIGJAM]

They don't need to compete in energy. All we need is enough energy for a well placed bullet to perform as designed and desired to have a dead animal.

If it were all about energy we'd all be shooting 50 BMG's, 416, and 375 Cheytac's.

Great point.

 

[WildRose]

Really? Come on bro - sure there is...

The differences in recoil and energy are pretty significant, I shoot a lot of both owning three of each.

 

[Mach 1]

They don't need to compete in energy. All we need is enough energy for a well placed bullet to perform as designed and desired to have a dead animal.

If it were all about energy we'd all be shooting 50 BMG's, 416, and 375 Cheytac's.

We need to get real. Why not hit them with my pick up. There's energy lol. I have a 50 bmg and I don't carry that heavy **** thing very far let alone through the mountains at altitude.

 

[WildRose]

Great point.

We have a tendency here to get hung up on a lot of things that flat don't matter, or matter very little.

If we were all shooting elk from 800-2,000 yards it would be a totally different conversation.

 

[WildRose]

We need to get real. Why not hit them with my pick up. There's energy lol. I have a 50 bmg and I don't carry that heavy **** thing very far let alone through the mountains at altitude.

You were the one making it all about energy. I simply pointed out the fallacy of the argument.

 

[Mach 1]

Really? Come on bro - sure there is...

150 FPS?? That's not a lot. And how many people on this site are shooting factory ammo? I'd bet not as many that reload.

 

[Mach 1]

You were the one making it all about energy. I simply pointed out the fallacy of the argument.

Like I said in previous posts shot placement is most important. You'll get no argument from me there.

 

[WildRose]

Like I said in previous posts shot placement is most important. You'll get no argument from me there.

We're back on the same page.

 

[WildRose]

150 FPS?? That's not a lot. And how many people on this site are shooting factory ammo? I'd bet not as many that reload.

And you can push the Rum considerably faster by reloading as well just like you can the WM.

My rum's will run consistently 200fps faster than my wm's loading similar bullets running similar powders without pushing either to ridiculous pressures.