Knowing what you know now, which cartridge?

[freddiej]

knowing what I know: what would I be using now? 25-06, 270 Win, 300 Win Mag, and 264 Win Mag. I use all of these except for the 25-06 and 264 Win Mag. since the 0.277" has been given new life by way of the 27 Nosler, 277 Fury, 277-08, and a couple of others. I, the anti-7mm Rem cult, person I am; I loved seeing new 270's coming out. the 7MM's are of no use to me. I can match them with a 277 slug now. I am not sure how this will all play out but I believe that the 270 and the 7MM will be at war again for dominance. this will spur more of the VLD heavier slugs for the 270 to be made. right now it's Berger and Barnes. I would like to see a 0.277" bore with not only a 1:8" twist but a 1:7.5" and 1:7" twists. I hope to see Speer, Sierra, Hornady and others start making 160's, 170's, and even a 180 grain slug. I have many regrets, only a few of which are selling great guns.. my 25-06 recently, my gifted 264 Win Mag, and my 270 H-Mag wildcat. I wonder if I can make another 270 H-mag.. I would love to have that cartridge again. the 27 Nosler might be as good. I am not sure.

 

[whirlwindjml]

Ive learned i coulda saved a pile $$ if woulda skipped the RUM and just got a .300win and still got to polk a long way. Winchester brass vs Norma for instance....

And after piling up a lot of elk with a 6.5 i probably would have built a .264 win mag a long time ago and been done with it.

But its been a fun journey and ill give my boys the extra toys when theyre older.

 

[jrock]

I didn't see an option for, "why use 80's technology when you can use 2020?"

 

[DJ Fergus]

knowing what I know: what would I be using now? 25-06, 270 Win, 300 Win Mag, and 264 Win Mag. I use all of these except for the 25-06 and 264 Win Mag. since the 0.277" has been given new life by way of the 27 Nosler, 277 Fury, 277-08, and a couple of others. I, the anti-7mm Rem cult, person I am; I loved seeing new 270's coming out. the 7MM's are of no use to me. I can match them with a 277 slug now. I am not sure how this will all play out but I believe that the 270 and the 7MM will be at war again for dominance. this will spur more of the VLD heavier slugs for the 270 to be made. right now it's Berger and Barnes. I would like to see a 0.277" bore with not only a 1:8" twist but a 1:7.5" and 1:7" twists. I hope to see Speer, Sierra, Hornady and others start making 160's, 170's, and even a 180 grain slug. I have many regrets, only a few of which are selling great guns.. my 25-06 recently, my gifted 264 Win Mag, and my 270 H-Mag wildcat. I wonder if I can make another 270 H-mag.. I would love to have that cartridge again. the 27 Nosler might be as good. I am not sure.

Freddie, I'm not a particular believer that any bore size is better than the other, I'm just a believer in shooting one of them that has great wind resistance ,adequate weight for the intended task with out the recoil of an abrams tank cannon. That can be done in several bore sizes. If a couple more manufacturers besides Berger alone would put out some 277 bullets with a g1 equivalent of around .700 to .800 or above, I would go ahead and order a .277 cal barrel tonight. I'm waiting to see the specs on the 165 ablr. I bought my 5th 270 the week before last. I really think everyone would like to see more options in high bc 277 cal bullets and we are slowly getting there. I'm sure the 25 cal guys would like to see more high bc options. I would personally like to see some more high bc options to run in a 257 weatherby.

 

[ATH]

I remain of the opinion that, specific conditions not defined, the 300WM remains one of the best general cartridges ever devised. I shoot everything from 110gr-200gr bullets in mine, and when I burn the barrel and re-work loads I'm sure this range will expand even more. Prairie dogs to elk.

 

[imartin]

I own a 25-06, 270, 7mm RM (x2), and 300 Wby. I had a 264 WM and would like another. The new stuff isn't killing critters any more dead. It's fun to play with new stuff though!

 

[DJ Fergus]

I didn't see an option for, "why use 80's technology when you can use 2020?"

If you really wanted cutting edge cartridge technology you would probably go straight to one of the Sherman series cartridges. The thread was not to say that pre 80s technology was better than what we have today or to start the likes of a war over the topic but more or less , to reflect on what cartridges were possiblity over looked in their time and more appreciated in today's times. I'm all for new technology. What would a fellow rather have, a new sports car off of the lot or a 1960's muscle car. Different strokes for different folks.

 

[JMW67]

If you really wanted cutting edge cartridge technology you would probably go straight to one of the Sherman series cartridges. The thread was not to say that pre 80s technology was better than what we have today or to start the likes of a war over the topic but more or less , to reflect on what cartridges were possiblity over looked in their time and more appreciated in today's times. I'm all for new technology. What would a fellow rather have, a new sports car off of the lot or a 1960's muscle car. Different strokes for different folks.

7x 57 and a 426 hemi but just me

 

[sentry53]

most reloaders on this sight have better speed readers than jack had even in the speer test lab that he used. the 280 was down loaded for the Remington pumps and autos of the time. and who would have thought that you could load the 35 whelen with 8208 to over 2800 fps with a 250 grain speer bullet way back when.

 

[DJ Fergus]

Taking these older cartridges, running new high bc bullets , appropriate freebore, modern powders to match up with them well is no different of a thing that the folks who take a brand new LS motor & drop it in a 69 Chevy truck or car or whatever brand you like Ford, Mopar etc... Sure you can buy something new, nothing wrong with new off the lot. I'll take one of those to.
I've always wanted a 264 win mag, is there something better? Sure it probably is. Probably several guns in my safe that will do the same thing it would, but I'm going to eventually get around to putting together a 264 win mag. Working on a 6.5 prc right now. Which one will shoot better? Possibly the 6.5 prc, it's anyones guess but I will have a 264 win mag eventually. I like new new technology but more than anything I just like bolt action rifles. I haven't saw one yet that I would turn down if someone tried to give it to me. I don't hate any cartridge or rifle. It sure makes it alot more fun looking at it from that standpoint.

 

[35 Whelen]

OF the ones listed I chose the 270Win. and .300 Win. Mag. Why because they have ben getting the job done scents 1925 and 1963 and I just like them. Of the others I have it would be the 35 Whelen and 338 Win. Mag., but I have others that I like as well and that would work very well like the 30-06, 308, and 243.
All depends on how many I can have or heaven forbid how few I'm restricted too. Hope the restrictions never happen.

 

[DJ Fergus]

OF the ones listed I chose the 270Win. and .300 Win. Mag. Why because they have ben getting the job done scents 1925 and 1963 and I just like them. Of the others I have it would be the 35 Whelen and 338 Win. Mag., but I have others that I like as well and that would work very well like the 30-06, 308, and 243.
All depends on how many I can have or heaven forbid how few I'm restricted too. Hope the restrictions never happen.

I wish I could have listed more than 10 choices, would have liked to put down more calibers such as 243, 338, 284 Winchester & .35 cals
350 rem mag is another cartridge that has always intrigued me. Would be a fun round to tinker with in a magnun long action seated long.

 

[whirlwindjml]

reflect on what cartridges were possiblity over looked in their time and more appreciated in today's times

Especially after dumping lot of money only to realize you could have had close enough results with something much simpler or more affordable. I think modern bullet design and modern scrubs are far more important than the new cartridges that are popped up.

The 215 Berger for example has turned people's win mags into RUM s dang near.

I say all this as my new 6.5prc is in the mail....ill never quit I Guess

 

[Wild Monkey]

The 280AI has a special place in my heart, but I'll never own one because the 7RM replaced it decades back. If I was around back in the day there would be a few Cartridges I would want: 240 Cobra, 220 Swift, 300 Savage. Only today there's no longer Ammo on the shelf for these. The Cobra may have always been a wildcat, but the Lee Navy Improved in a modern Gun would be fanciful.