I gone and got a CVA Optima.

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Alright you guys. After about 10 years of not muzzloader hunting, I broke down and got a new Muzz. My Farmer stopped planting and I had to give up my crop damage permits, so I wanted to be able to hunt with a "gun" in mid-October. Anyway, I have to get it to the range this week. I'm gonna go with White Hots and some 250 Grain Hornady SSTs. I still have some of this Milky White stuff. Will it be a suitable cleaner, or should I go to Wallyworld and get something else? Thanks!

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Alright you guys. After about 10 years of not muzzloader hunting, I broke down and got a new Muzz. My Farmer stopped planting and I had to give up my crop damage permits, so I wanted to be able to hunt with a "gun" in mid-October. Anyway, I have to get it to the range this week. I'm gonna go with White Hots and some 250 Grain Hornady SSTs. I still have some of this Milky White stuff. Will it be a suitable cleaner, or should I go to Wallyworld and get something else? Thanks!

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That will be just fine.
 
I use dawn soap and hot water. Pump it up and down the barrel a few times,then boiling hot water. Hold barrel with rag pump the hot water a few times,dry patch then patch with bore butter to prevent rust. Done.
Yeah, that's what I used to do with the Black Diamond I still have. I'd use a funnel and pour boiling water down the barrel after the Dawn and then patch it out with bore butter. I just didn't know if the Milky Stuff and Bore butter are still useful with these new stainless Muzzes. It looks like there are a lot more solvents available now and I see some guys using Isopropyl Alcohol. Makes sense to me but I see other stuff like G96 and foaming bore cleaners that look good too. Just thought I might pick something else up if it makes sense. The gun is new and I plan on cleaning it ever 3 shots at the range. I'm hoping I have it ready to go at 100 yards and know the drop at 200 within about 9-12 shots after I get it on paper.
 
Let me know when you're ready to go 'smokeless'…..shouldn't take more than a couple deep cleaning sessions. 😉
My buddy has one of those Savage smokeless powder Muzzloaders, probably from the late 90's or early 2000s. Beautiful thing with a laminate stock and stainless barrel. It seems to me that they are no longer commercially available. I should have thought to ask him if he'd sell it. I remember it being very nice to shoot and Not Clean!
 
I think it's cva that makes a spray foam cleaner I'd have to look . But I just use a old foam ear plug and spray some in and stand the barrel up and go back to cleaning the action and firing pin and spring . When it's done I patch out the barrel and run some tc bore butter it's blue and smells like toothpaste. Blackhorn 209 is definitely the powder most are using but that chit has gotten stupid expensive! I still run it in my paramount pro. Less work cleaning and it's non corrosive.
 
One last question. Is it still standard practice to use Bore butter? I recall using it to lightly lube the sabot and would leave a light coat of it in the bore after cleaning. Is this necessary with the stainless barrel?

Thanks!

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