@Frontier1992, I was trying to respond to your tree-hugging post liberal comment with a Biden voter meme, then all of a sudden POOF, it was gone, LOL! I guess I was too slow.
Great Falls, MT, as noted in my profile.Where are you from? 406muley
Great Falls, MT, as noted in my profile.
My family, both sides from the Highline. Shelby. 406muleyGreat Falls, MT, as noted in my profile.
My understanding from local land managers is that the interpretation was an easy one. A motor is a motor. Anything with a motor is not considered human powered. Anything with a motor is not allowed on non-motorized trails. Very simple. Now, industry is lobbying the government to change that interpretation from the top because there's money to be made. So here we are.Yes, but it is NOT the same motor that prompted the current restriction. I can fully support your last statement.
Jewel Basin wildernessWell, there is clearly a motor and a battery, hence the bulked up downtube and the unit on the backside of the seat tube. That's what makes it an e-bike I guess I differ from you in that I support having non-motorized places to go, where you can ride a human powered bike. As for "foot only", the closest you'll get is Wilderness which bans all forms of mechanized travel and is only open to horses and foot traffic, but that's a whole other topic.... Personally, I would be happy to see some places not open to horses, where you have no choice but to walk as you said.
Does not allow horses?Jewel Basin wilderness
Correct. Foot travel only.Does not allow horses?
Wow! That's a new one for me. I've never seen any place that didn't let horses in. Good to know.Correct. Foot travel only.
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Connected to the Bob Marshall wilderness. Has been that way for a very long time. I try to go in there every year.Wow! That's a new one for me. I've never seen any place that didn't let horses in. Good to know.
While the motor is a motor, there is a clear difference between a combustion engine vs. an electric motor. No one is claiming having a motor is considered human powered at least my bike company does not. Creating another trail instead of sharing does not make sense. Not too long ago, people are against interstate highways, and now it became a necessity, and I hear no one complaining about its existence today.My understanding from local land managers is that the interpretation was an easy one. A motor is a motor. Anything with a motor is not considered human powered. Anything with a motor is not allowed on non-motorized trails. Very simple. Now, industry is lobbying the government to change that interpretation from the top because there's money to be made. So here we are.
Here locally, the BLM is now proposing a whole other category of trails that are closed to combustion motors (motorcycles) but open to electric motors (e-bikes). If I were a moto rider who had spent years clearing trails and doing trail maintenance, I would be ****ed off that they're now considering a whole new category for what is a new and every evolving user group, but not open to me.....
Awesome!Correct. Foot travel only.