Hunting with E-bikes

[FEENIX]

Motor. Key word. I bust my *** hiking 3 and 1/2 miles on a closed road to motorized vehicles just to get to where I elk hunt. Then another mile or two hunting. Then killing a bull. No way I want electric motorcycles where I am. 406muley

The motor you are referring to that prompted the restriction is NOT the same as what powers the e-bike. Where I hunt, it is an uphill 6-7 miles of non-motorized closed road before climbing another half a mile up the mountain, which is one way only. 80 percent of hunters are on horseback.

 

[FEENIX]

Feenix, I don't know you, so please don't think I am referring to you individually. And your golden rule is spot on. Etiquette is the same as it is for a motorcycle and I appreciate you seeking to understand it. In this area that means that e-bikes yield to everyone just like motorcycles are supposed to. Mountain bikes yield to hikers and equestrians. Downhill riders yield to uphill riders. Everyone yields to equestrians and I forget if you're supposed to be on the uphill or downhill side of the trail and speak to the equestrians so that the horse can realize you're a human. Horses generally do not yield to anyone, mostly because the dismounting/remounting and it's harder for them to get off the trail to yield to another user. In general, your golden rule will keep everyone happy. As a mountain biker, I often slow down and make the effort to step to the side of the trail and let hikers go by, only to have the hikers then hop to the side and wave me through. It's all good. I made the effort and showed that I understand that they have the right of way. They, in turn, appreciate that and understand that it's easier for them to step out of the way, and so they do.

This is why I adhere to the Golden Rule and never assume anything.

 

[RockyMtnMT]

I think I have one of the most powerful e-bikes on the market. I can't spin the tire any diff than I can on my mountain bike. Can I cover more ground on it than I can on my mountain bike without getting into great shape? Yes. Years ago when I used to ride my mountain bike a lot? About the same. I can maintain higher speed much longer on the e-bike. The more it works the less distance it can go. The more I work the farther it can go. I personally get a harder workout on the bike than I do walking. When the terrain gets steep, the e-bike is done and I am on foot. I can not ride it over rocks and logs with no trail like I can a motorcycle. Not even close.

There is such a thing as electric motorcycles. I have not ridden one but I understand it is like riding a gas engine motorcycle. Much different cat.

 

[Deleted member 118572]

No bikes of any kind in WILDERNESS

Any bike is okay where ATVs are allowed.

 

[sp6x6]

Many a time in GNPark id be riding in the back country and hikers would say''they let horses in here?''I reply how do you think all these trails and cabins etc,got here. I use to take a 4x4 and motor cycle in many places I cant now,right on continental dived,many ,many miles of road and trail closed down.Plus I see all this work done where they log,build new roads,then spend tons of time decommison roads and even take old roads back to natural.Most are overgrown in relative short time,or they go in to log farther back.Its a waste of time and resource the way they go about.But there here in MT or ID you could not evn cover hardley all the motorized trails that are open if you had the time.

 

[FEENIX]

No bikes of any kind in WILDERNESS

Any bike is okay where ATVs are allowed.

How about foot only instead and make it even and fair for all GerryBaker1960?

 

[406muley]

E-bikes are motorized vehicles and should be treated as such. Spinning tires or not. Once the E-bike is ok, anything goes. Non motorized. It ain't that hard to understand. 406muley

 

[406muley]

The motor you are referring to that prompted the restriction is NOT the same as what powers the e-bike. Where I hunt, it is an uphill 6-7 miles of non-motorized closed road before climbing another half a mile up the mountain, which is one way only. 80 percent of hunters are on horseback.

So motors are different? How? Too bad you can't walk that far. Not my problem when it's non motorized access. 406muley

 

[FEENIX]

So motors are different? How? Too bad you can't walk that far. Not my problem when it's non motorized access. 406muley

Look at #2 and tell me if you see anything that resembles a motor. Who said I could not walk a 14-15 mile round trip? Of course, it is not your problem, and no one is asking you to carry the burden for us. This is why most of us are trying to resolve just like the Secretary of the Interior. I have no problem with foot-only access and keep it even and fair.

 

[406muley]

Look at #2 and tell me if you see anything that resembles a motor. Who said I could not walk a 14-15 mile round trip? Of course, it is not your problem, and no one is asking you to carry the burden for us. This is why most of us are trying to resolve just like the Secretary of the Interior. I have no problem with foot-only access and keep it even and fair.

Non motorized should stay just that. Why do these bikes need to be included? They have a MOTOR. 406muley

 

[LkeAF]

Look at #2 and tell me if you see anything that resembles a motor. Who said I could not walk a 14-15 mile round trip? Of course, it is not your problem, and no one is asking you to carry the burden for us. This is why most of us are trying to resolve just like the Secretary of the Interior. I have no problem with foot-only access and keep it even and fair.

Well, there is clearly a motor and a battery, hence the bulked up downtube and the unit on the backside of the seat tube. That's what makes it an e-bike I guess I differ from you in that I support having non-motorized places to go, where you can ride a human powered bike. As for "foot only", the closest you'll get is Wilderness which bans all forms of mechanized travel and is only open to horses and foot traffic, but that's a whole other topic.... Personally, I would be happy to see some places not open to horses, where you have no choice but to walk as you said.

 

[FEENIX]

Non motorized should stay just that. Why do these bikes need to be included? They have a MOTOR. 406muley

I guess you did not read the policy noted in #4 and #11.

 

[FEENIX]

Well, there is clearly a motor and a battery, hence the bulked up downtube and the unit on the backside of the seat tube. That's what makes it an e-bike I guess I differ from you in that I support having non-motorized places to go, where you can ride a human powered bike. As for "foot only", the closest you'll get is Wilderness which bans all forms of mechanized travel and is only open to horses and foot traffic, but that's a whole other topic.... Personally, I would be happy to see some places not open to horses, where you have no choice but to walk as you said.

Yes, but it is NOT the same motor that prompted the current restriction. I can fully support your last statement.

 

[406muley]

I guess you did not read the policy noted in #4 and #11.

Where are you from? 406muley