How would you set up a 308 Winchester?

[mikebob]

I have shot deer at 700 and 850 yards with 175 bergers @2840f/s. Both 1 shot kills drt. Did not exit but liquefied the inside.

There is a good write up about the 308 on here in the articles section By Michael Eichele

http://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/308-winchester-1.php

 

[0311 G Az]

This is a great thread. Thanks everybody for the input. I am a Varget guy and working on a .308 load as this is written. I think it is a little light for me to try elk at distance. I am comfortable with it to 300 yards. I would be comfortable with my .308 out out further for antelope or deer where I live.

When the 30 mph + wind gusts die down after spring (yeah!) I am going to set my chronograph up. In the current winds I don't know if there is enough clicks to try to figure windage!

There is a lot of good data and many good bullets to try especially when looking at keeping the distances reasonable 500 yards or so. I know some of you guys can do better. For me I am really on a learning curve, but there is time before hunting season.

 

[trebark]

Trebark,

I know i cant duplicate that with my 24" tube, but will you post the recipe? I'm a varget fan but may give it a shot.

As I recall, the recipe was 48+grains of RL17, CCI BR2, 208Amax

 

[straightshooter]

Wow, I kind of stopped following this post. It didn't take off so fast. A lot of good info finally came out. I do not expect to use a 308 as my primary elk rifle. It will mainly be used for practice, but I would like to get as much out of it as possible. Running my ballistics program, it seemed to me that 450 yards was about as much as I could expect. I did read a post on another website where a guy said he shot an elk at 650, 750, and 800 yards. Who knows if he was a key board commando or what so I thought I would ask here. I would like to be able to carry hunt with this rifle, mainly for deer and hogs, but elk hunting is my passion so that is how elk worked its way in to this.

 

[Guy M]

The .308 is a good cartridge, and a fine, accurate rifle can be built around it at reasonable weight and without great expense. I really like my .308, not sure how far I'd risk a shot at elk with it. 400 - 500 yards sure. Beyond that? Dunno. Farther is why I have a .300 WSM too!

What I do like about the .308 is that it's so easy to shoot well, easy to load, easy on barrel life and just very pleasant to get along with. I've been shooting mine for about 15 years, through several different barrels. Now and then I get the urge to re-barrel it to something else, but I always seem to come back to the .308 Win.

Regards, Guy

 

[RockinGlock]

Ouch, cant believe some of the mis information on the .308 in here. It is a better caliber than most know, since there obviously hearing rumors on it passed through the grapevine.

I reload the heck out of .308 and I mean thousands, have 3500 Lapua brass I'm working on prepping now.

46grains (max) of Varget at 2.82 OAL and CCI BR primers and a 175SMK will send everything to death at 1000yds while screaming right at 2800fps, most guns get in the 2750 range.

I would use a Nosler BT or something in the Fusion category that you can buy off the shelf, but I would just try and copy that or maybe use the Fusion bullet which is a hunting bullet from Sierra that is close to matching the SMK. They say that hunting bullet is preferred better starting at 300yds and out..

Made me wonder how a arrow can kill a Elk at 30yds but a .308 isn't gonna kill it past 400yds?

 

[coyotenut]

RockinGlock
I have often wondered the same thing about why an arrow is capable of killing elk but anything under a 300win mag is not adequate for elk? Amazing how much misinformation is out there.

 

[Guy M]

Makes a fellow wonder doesn't it?

I've great confidence in my .308 rifle - kind of happens after 15 years and multiple barrels. Heck of a fine cartridge, perfectly adequate for most hunting situations.

Regards, Guy

 

[ICANHITHIMMAN]

you cant compair arrows and bullets guys.

 

[liltank]

Well I have a B&C Medalist A2 stock. I use a Savage action with a Lothar Walther barrel. It is 28" 1:12 twist. I use an EGW base and Weaver rings. I have a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44. This set up will do all I ask of it. Comes in at about 13#. So far so good. Pushing 178 Hornady BTHP's at an average of 2823fps with 45grns of RL15. I use Federal 210 match primers and RWS brass trimmed to 2.015".

Tank

 

[straightshooter]

liltank, do you use that bullet on game? If so how does it perform? Can you post a picture of this rifle. I would like to see the proportion of barrel to stock. I was considering a 26" barrel.

 

[rooster740]

You better have thick skin if you mention the lethality of arrow vs. bullet! Ouch, I am still missing part of my ***!I have been witness to less then stellar terminal balistics by hot rod magnums incomparison to some of the bloody messes arrows have made, though not common.

I have a 308 Winchester featherweight stainless with a 22 inch barrel with a 4.5x 14 leupold (saddle gun) that I love. I shoot 150gr tsx @3000fps and 168gr. tsx @2850fps over Varget .75-1 moa groups . I have a heavey barrel 308 on a Winchester pushfeed action with a 6.5x 20 leupold (Truck gun) that I shoot a plethora of jacketed bullets from getting .5-.75 moa. Both of these have killed many elk by myself, friends, first year hunters, new hunters, and as the guides rifle that shoots really good and does not cut the eyebrow, AGAIN!. I have killed elk past 500 yards with my 308. I have also killed elk with a bow, and alway am often amazed how fast they die!

 

[liltank]

liltank, do you use that bullet on game? If so how does it perform? Can you post a picture of this rifle. I would like to see the proportion of barrel to stock. I was considering a 26" barrel.

It's a new bullet and I have yet to try it. I just started playing with it this winter. I plan on giving it a try on groundhogs this year. Just waiting for the rain to stop long enough to get out w/o setting in a mud puddle.

Here she is:

Tank

 

[straightshooter]

liltank, thanks for the picture! Nice rifle by the way. It looks like it balances nicely. I have a model 16 in a 7mm wsm that I was thinking of converting to a 308 to practice with. If I ever decide to go on an elk hunt, I could change the bolt head and barrel back to the 7mm wsm. This way I will be shooting the same rifle stock, scope, combo, just a different caliber. Have you ever had a savage switch barrel? If yes, how do they work out?