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How not, to use a 6.5 creedmoor
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Marc Gauthier
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The guy is proud of his hunt and teaches him like that to a youngster, there is more than a problem of bad shooting. Sorry for my english.
Dirtscoots
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Never once heard them mention range. I don't think there would have been a correct Caliber to make that situation ethical in my mind.
MudRunner2005
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Western hunting, yes. Rich's cartridges, yes and no. I'm quite familiar with wildcats and cartridge design, and have a good bit of experience with them.
Not impressed with the shots nor the caliber! An elk is a big and resistant animal and especially at long range forget the 6.5 creedmore its just not the caliber for the shot even though it is the new ''TREND'' on the field, its not a caliber for elk hunts. Minimum caliber should be a 7mm Mag which the 6.5 is trying to compete with but will never outmatch! If you still want to persue elk hunts change your caliber and get good clean kills at long range, 7mm Mag is the minimum, go into the 30 caliber range of rifles.
misterc01
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John@redmt
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Terrible for the bull. The hunters should be ashamed of making an animal suffer like that. I hunt to kill. No matter what you hunt, you gotta hunt with the right equipment for the situation. You also need to know YOUR ABILITY. I've taken tons of pig and deer with a 5.56 only because i know I can drop them with a single shot. Elk, moose? .308 or better, no matter how good you are.
misterc01
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So sad...………………………….
seattleman1969
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We all make bad shots.
My 2017 cow was shot at 225 yards with a 300 WSM, 165 Gr Barnes. More than enough medicine right? I spotted her in the open after hiking 2 miles over a 2500 foot rise. Breathing hard, no rest, no where to go, no shot from prone because of the roll of the hill, took a kneeling position and first shot grazed her front leg. She took two steps and stopped, second shot missed under. Third shot broke her back above the shoulder and she went down, sliding down the hill on the snow about 300 yards (This would work in my favor on recovery), but she was still very much alive and calling the rest of the herd in a panic. Finished her with a head shot from 50 yards.
I felt terrible. The spine shot I found the bullet under the hide on the far side. Looked like a text book Barnes expansion... but elk are tough critters.
Giving the benefit of the doubt maybe this was just a bad day...
My 2017 cow was shot at 225 yards with a 300 WSM, 165 Gr Barnes. More than enough medicine right? I spotted her in the open after hiking 2 miles over a 2500 foot rise. Breathing hard, no rest, no where to go, no shot from prone because of the roll of the hill, took a kneeling position and first shot grazed her front leg. She took two steps and stopped, second shot missed under. Third shot broke her back above the shoulder and she went down, sliding down the hill on the snow about 300 yards (This would work in my favor on recovery), but she was still very much alive and calling the rest of the herd in a panic. Finished her with a head shot from 50 yards.
I felt terrible. The spine shot I found the bullet under the hide on the far side. Looked like a text book Barnes expansion... but elk are tough critters.
Giving the benefit of the doubt maybe this was just a bad day...
feelinducky
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What an embarrassment. If I did that there would be no way I would post the video. We all have had bad shots but the last thing I want to do is show the world how much I sucked.
19elkhunter51
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If you shoot consistently at a thousand yards and consistently shoot from less than perfect conditions at a thousand yards this is not the shot to be taking. Particularly with a less than adequate cartridge. I know. My "uncle, grandfather, second cousin and Jim Bob" all killed elk by the thousands with a 22 LR. Can it be done? Sure. Should it be done? Not by some like this **** poor shooter.
Is bigger better? Only if you can use it accurately. If you have hunted much you have seen the guy that went hunt with his new 338 WinMag but was so afraid of the recoil he had a hard time hitting the side of the mountain. I do belong to the bigger is better club. I don't like the current trend of believing that the 6.5 CM is the proverbial bolt of lightning for use on anything up to and including monster dinosaurs.
Banging steel is not the same a ethically shooting a game animal. Coyotes and deer are probably the proper game size for the 6.5 CM.
As always, opinions are like a$$holes. Every has one and this is mine.
Is bigger better? Only if you can use it accurately. If you have hunted much you have seen the guy that went hunt with his new 338 WinMag but was so afraid of the recoil he had a hard time hitting the side of the mountain. I do belong to the bigger is better club. I don't like the current trend of believing that the 6.5 CM is the proverbial bolt of lightning for use on anything up to and including monster dinosaurs.
Banging steel is not the same a ethically shooting a game animal. Coyotes and deer are probably the proper game size for the 6.5 CM.
As always, opinions are like a$$holes. Every has one and this is mine.
LittleMike
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There's long range shooting and long range hunting. The video shows plainly some cannot do either one. Hunting, if you cannot make the shot don't take the shot,
crkckr
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Scoots, the range was shown in onscreen text at the beginning , 600 yds. Just my opinion but I think he was way under gunned at that range, in fact I wouldn't use a 6.5 CM on elk, period. Yeah, I know it can be done, but I also know how tenacious elk are, so I wouldn't even consider it.
Most of all, if I had been the "star" of that freak show I would have erased the evidence and sworn the others to secrecy! Be proud of the elk but quiet about how many chunks of lead were thrown at it and how it actually died. Maybe it was a case of 'buck fever' but if you get that tight in a clinch, there should have been a back up shooter. The only way that fiasco could have been worse is if they were unable to find the bull at all. I think this is more of a "how to fall into the outhouse pit and come out smelling like rose" - an example of what not to do. From the poor choice of caliber to lousy shooting, to questionable shots at too long a range to having to put two shots into a critter already on the ground when one should do it (no mention of the pistol used but judging by what I saw, it was probably a .22!), the whole thing simply reeks of "wrong!" Definitely not a hunt to be proud of.
Cheers,
crkckr
Most of all, if I had been the "star" of that freak show I would have erased the evidence and sworn the others to secrecy! Be proud of the elk but quiet about how many chunks of lead were thrown at it and how it actually died. Maybe it was a case of 'buck fever' but if you get that tight in a clinch, there should have been a back up shooter. The only way that fiasco could have been worse is if they were unable to find the bull at all. I think this is more of a "how to fall into the outhouse pit and come out smelling like rose" - an example of what not to do. From the poor choice of caliber to lousy shooting, to questionable shots at too long a range to having to put two shots into a critter already on the ground when one should do it (no mention of the pistol used but judging by what I saw, it was probably a .22!), the whole thing simply reeks of "wrong!" Definitely not a hunt to be proud of.
Cheers,
crkckr
