RCBS Chargemaster all the way.
How many of you went back (scales)
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varmintH8R
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I am still married to my beam scale. I'm sure the high-end digitals do a very good job. I will admit that I get a (tiny) smug smile when I read these threads and there are multiple posts that state "I check my e-scale against my beam scale, and it is always right on".
Never vice-versa.....
Broz, I like your bullet as a check weight idea for electrics ...
Never vice-versa.....
Broz, I like your bullet as a check weight idea for electrics ...
boomtube
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Everyone luvs his digital scale gadgic, why not, at least it craps out. And it will. Then the luvers are SOL. Unless they have an ol' fashioned but dependable beam scale to fall back on. But, I just can't see what a digital scale is even supposed to bring into play. ??
Beam scales don't quit and their calibration doesn't drift with time, voltage and termperature. Like Model T's, they aren't fancy or flashy, they just keep going -- for decades. And the brand hardly seems to matter, they all work. (I do like reliability!)
(Now, let me note that digital dumpsters aren't the issue, they are much more than a scale. And I suppose their auto dump value depends a whole lot on the powder dispensing skills of the user.)
Beam scales don't quit and their calibration doesn't drift with time, voltage and termperature. Like Model T's, they aren't fancy or flashy, they just keep going -- for decades. And the brand hardly seems to matter, they all work. (I do like reliability!)
(Now, let me note that digital dumpsters aren't the issue, they are much more than a scale. And I suppose their auto dump value depends a whole lot on the powder dispensing skills of the user.)
johnnyk
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Clovis Man
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Same here, except I use my original Redding scale instead of the RCBS. I use a Lachmiller press too, BTW.
Topgun 30-06
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Everyone luvs his digital scale gadgic, why not, at least it craps out. And it will. Then the luvers are SOL. Unless they have an ol' fashioned but dependable beam scale to fall back on. But, I just can't see what a digital scale is even supposed to bring into play. ??
Beam scales don't quit and their calibration doesn't drift with time, voltage and termperature. Like Model T's, they aren't fancy or flashy, they just keep going -- for decades. And the brand hardly seems to matter, they all work. (I do like reliability!)
(Now, let me note that digital dumpsters aren't the issue, they are much more than a scale. And I suppose their auto dump value depends a whole lot on the powder dispensing skills of the user.)
I knew as soon as I read your first post that you've been around scales a long time and know your stuff when you mentioned bringing them to NBS requirements, as it changed to NIST well before I retired from my state job here in MI in 2002! I also have never used anything but my Ohaus 505.
lloydsmale
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ive used electronic scales and dispensors for 2o years and would just as soon go back to one as i would trade my corvette for a 1980 impala or trade my electric light switches for keosene lamps. I dont know how many thousands of around of ammo ive loaded using them but its in the 100s of thouand and ive yet to have an overcharge or any other issue using them. theres a balance beam on the shelf thats been sitting there long enough that the scale probbably registers the weight of the dust on it.
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lloydsmale
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mine used to do all kinds of teedious loading chores like trimming brass ect before we were married. Just setting the hook as she goes running now whenever i even talk reloading
Marine sniper
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I have the 10-10 and a charge master 1500. All of my loading is done on the 1500. I have a 190 Berger bullet that weighs exactly 190.0 grains. I use it as a check weight for the 1500. 98/100 times it will read 190.0. On the off time it does not I check to make sure it is level "0" it out, recheck the weight and continue loading.
Trickymissfit
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I once had two Ohaus 304's, and before that a 10-10. They all went to the flea market ten or twelve years ago, and probably reside in the trash dump as by now the bearings are gone. You don't even have to use one for those bearings to go south. All you gotta do is turn the electricity on in your house or shop. When RCBS came out with their electronic scale I bought one and loved it, but somebody stole it from me. So I bought a Pact (they make the RCBS), and maybe twelve or thirteen years later it's still waiting to crap out. Later I came into a brand new Pact just like the older one, but with the inferred port. Ten years later it's still waiting to crap out. About that same time I bought a small battery powered one from Pact to use at the range. Still waiting to crap out after at least ten years.
I usually use mine under those evil fluorescent lights, and never have a problem. I often use the two bigger Pacts in tandem to do double check max loads. All three of these scales have been checked in a lab, and they are extremely accurate (in the .03 of a grain area at the worst). I've checked my scales more than once with lab grade weights, and they are spot on (the ones the scales come with are no where that good). I have actually went so far as to use these scales with a power conditioner that puts out the correct voltage while filtering the junk in the AC lines. Saw no advantage at my house even though I know there is a ground loop fault in it somewhere.
Now some guys like Mod. T Fords and some don't (nothing prettier than a 27 mod. T). But would you want that Ford with the junky four banger and wing and a prayer gear box? I'll pass; thank you! But alas some folks like the by gone eras. Nobody in industrial use uses one anymore because they are not good enough. A walk into General Electric, Pratt Whitney, or Rolls Royce will show you a complete absence of the old time scales that they used twenty years ago. The Fed won't even except a measurement from one these days, and that ought to tell you something!
gary
I usually use mine under those evil fluorescent lights, and never have a problem. I often use the two bigger Pacts in tandem to do double check max loads. All three of these scales have been checked in a lab, and they are extremely accurate (in the .03 of a grain area at the worst). I've checked my scales more than once with lab grade weights, and they are spot on (the ones the scales come with are no where that good). I have actually went so far as to use these scales with a power conditioner that puts out the correct voltage while filtering the junk in the AC lines. Saw no advantage at my house even though I know there is a ground loop fault in it somewhere.
Now some guys like Mod. T Fords and some don't (nothing prettier than a 27 mod. T). But would you want that Ford with the junky four banger and wing and a prayer gear box? I'll pass; thank you! But alas some folks like the by gone eras. Nobody in industrial use uses one anymore because they are not good enough. A walk into General Electric, Pratt Whitney, or Rolls Royce will show you a complete absence of the old time scales that they used twenty years ago. The Fed won't even except a measurement from one these days, and that ought to tell you something!
gary
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Trickymissfit stated: "I once had two Ohaus 304's, and before that a 10-10. They all went to the flea market ten or twelve years ago, and probably reside in the trash dump as by now the bearings are gone."
***Since when did beam scales have bearings? The beam rides on what most "old timers" refer to as knives. They are just a V that rides in a V and the only way they will "EVER" wear out is if someone doesn't take care of them properly.
***Since when did beam scales have bearings? The beam rides on what most "old timers" refer to as knives. They are just a V that rides in a V and the only way they will "EVER" wear out is if someone doesn't take care of them properly.
