Help: every time I go to Kansas I get pulled over

[Deleted member 46119]

Are you just going to keep babbling every time you make a post or look at that video I posted and then shut the heck up for good?! I hope it's the latter because if it isn't I'm sure you'll keep right on making a fool of yourself and I'll keep right on helping you do it! lightbulb

I looked at the video. 5 times, then read the text, 2 times.

You didn't read this thread. You have no idea what the original question is about.

You have no idea about what the world is about.

How old are you?

 

[Topgun 30-06]

I looked at the video. 5 times, then read the text, 2 times.

You didn't read this thread. You have no idea what the original question is about.

You have no idea about what the world is about.

How old are you?

Oh yea, I've read and reread the thread and know exactly what it started out as and then got sidetracked by your endless crying about being picked on and having a gun pointed at you, LOL!!! At 67 I've seen more than a few like yourself that think the world is picking on them and I'm old enough to know you're a loser as soon as you made the post saying you've had 10 traffic tickets, yet think you are a Church going Saint, LOL! Let the thread end, as you keep making my point every time you post! lightbulb

 

[ROOSEVELK]

Oh yea, I've read and reread the thread and know exactly what it started out as and then got sidetracked by your endless crying about being picked on and having a gun pointed at you, LOL!!! At 67 I've seen more than a few like yourself that think the world is picking on them and I'm old enough to know you're a loser as soon as you made the post saying you've had 10 traffic tickets, yet think you are a Church going Saint, LOL! Let the thread end, as you keep making my point every time you post! lightbulb

Agreed ....and not going to a state, where your mom lives, due to being pulled over? I have a pretty good feeling there's more to the OP's story/history than he's letting on...I wasn't going to post again....but what the heck ...bring it

 

[Deleted member 46119]

Oh yea, I've read and reread the thread and know exactly what it started out as and then got sidetracked by your endless crying about being picked on and having a gun pointed at you, LOL!!! At 67 I've seen more than a few like yourself that think the world is picking on them and I'm old enough to know you're a loser as soon as you made the post saying you've had 10 traffic tickets, yet think you are a Church going Saint, LOL! Let the thread end, as you keep making my point every time you post! lightbulb

Ok, that's what I needed.

You are 67 but you've been hunting big game for over 60 years.

Your numbers don't add up. In fact a lot of what you ascribe to others doesn't add up. Including that which you ascribe to me. You are a embellisher.

Basically you are a person of opinion in absence of facts.

The majority of your comments posted here are either self aggrandizement or criticism of others. There is very little help or encouragement in your postings unless it includes a "put down" of some sort.

Perhaps a disgruntled ex-cop who is still trying to use the old ways of intimidation to try to make the world go his way.

Oh and at the pace I'm going I will have over 200 big game animals in the bag in 60 yards of hunting so your pathetic 100 is not encouraging. If you count small game, I do that in one winter. LOL. Without a gun, bow or trap.

 

[ROOSEVELK]

Ok, that's what I needed.

You are 67 but you've been hunting big game for over 60 years.

Your numbers don't add up. In fact a lot of what you ascribe to others doesn't add up. Including that which you ascribe to me. You are a embellisher.

Basically you are a person of opinion in absence of facts.

The majority of your comments posted here are either self aggrandizement or criticism of others. There is very little help or encouragement in your postings unless it includes a "put down" of some sort.

Perhaps a disgruntled ex-cop who is still trying to use the old ways of intimidation to try to make the world go his way.


Oh and at the pace I'm going I will have over 200 big game animals in the bag in 60 yards of hunting so your pathetic 100 is not encouraging. If you count small game, I do that in one winter. LOL. Without a gun, bow or trap.

I thought you don't say/aren't negative towards law enforcement?....yaaaay....you kill things....that's hard

 

[Topgun 30-06]

Ok, that's what I needed.

***You are full of bull!!!

You are 67 but you've been hunting big game for over 60 years.

Your numbers don't add up. In fact a lot of what you ascribe to others doesn't add up. Including that which you ascribe to me. You are a embellisher.

***Yep, I'm 67 and started going with Dad when I was 5, took the first NRA safety course that was offered in my area way back then and started carrying a loaded gun the following year when I was 6. 67-6=61, DUH! Embellish my ***!

Basically you are a person of opinion in absence of facts.

***Yea, right says you, LOL!

The majority of your comments posted here are either self aggrandizement or criticism of others. There is very little help or encouragement in your postings unless it includes a "put down" of some sort.

***You got your help about 8-9 pages ago when you were advised to take a hike while you were behind and didn't listen!

Perhaps a disgruntled ex-cop who is still trying to use the old ways of intimidation to try to make the world go his way.

***Now who is the one who lacks reading comprehension and just continues to post BS when you've been told a number of times I wasn't a cop! lightbulb

Oh, and at the pace I'm going I will have over 200 big game animals in the bag in 60 yards of hunting so your pathetic 100 is not encouraging.

***I said it was 100+, so it's many more than that and seeing as how I don't hunt to count and/or kill something every time I go out your "pathetic 100 is not encouraging" is what is really pathetic!! In fact, at my age and with so much time spent in the field (7 weeks in Wyoming again this year alone) that I've had over so many years I'm getting much more satisfaction in helping younger folks, especially mentoring real young ones to get them started like my Dad did with me!


If you count small game, I do that in one winter. LOL. Without a gun, bow or trap.

***You are really the one embellishing it now because if I also counted small game I'd bury you in your house and back yard, LOL! Now please quit making a fool of yourself because I'm almost to the point of feeling sorry for you---NOT!

 

[Deleted member 46119]

I thought you don't say/aren't negative towards law enforcement?....yaaaay....you kill things....that's hard

If he is a cop then he's a bad cop, no doughnut .

As for "you kill things" you read it with what ever bias you desire. It is completely directed at Topgun 30-06 who self aggrandized about how much he's killed. I was pointing out like you chose to, not really impressive.

Except

I do it with trained falcons and hawks.gun)gun)

Oh, and y'all can't lie to animals. I'd bet money that my dog, your dog, my falcons would growl or alarm call when they saw TopGun 30-06. They know more than we do.

Now I will read TopGun 30-06's predicable retort. I predict it will contain personal insults and falsehoods.

 

[Deleted member 46119]

I'm not going to quote TopGun 30-06 because the format is so bad.

At the moment, I have visions of this masked person foaming at the mouth and spraying spittle on his computer screen. I say masked person because getting details of who he is is a bit difficult. I'm sorry you are such an angry and hateful person. Not my fault though.

Started hunting big game at age 5. Very impressive. I bend to your excellence.

Oh and only 7 weeks hunting. Sorry for you. With your history of big game hunting before even starting kindergarten school it must be very painful to have so little time to hunt.

You started this by calling me names. Now I know I'm supposed to be the better person and let it go. Difficult thing to do but I'll keep trying to work it in.

 

[Topgun 30-06]

If he is a cop then he's a bad cop, no doughnut .

***Ha ha! You're trying to be a funny man and not doing well at that either. Another stupid joke directed at cops when I'm not even one and never have been!

As for "you kill things" you read it with what ever bias you desire. It is completely directed at Topgun 30-06 who self aggrandized about how much he's killed. I was pointing out like you chose to, not really impressive.

***Please show me a post in this thread where I said anything about killing animals BEFORE you made your stupid killing comment about killing and count!

I do it with trained falcons and hawks.gun)gun)

***I wouldn't spread that around too much as someone might take it out of context, LOL!

Oh, and y'all can't lie to animals. I'd bet money that my dog, your dog, my falcons would growl or alarm call when they saw TopGun 30-06. They know more than we do.

***That is a telling statement about yourself that I sure nobody wouldn't argue with after reading your posts on this thread!

Now I will read TopGun 30-06's predicable retort. I predict it will contain personal insults and falsehoods.

***You lose that bet too! Other than saying I'm done with you and the fact that in dealing with you the old saying that you can't fix stupid sure is true I'm outta here with better things to do than argue with someone who is just arguing for arguments sake. That is a typical sign of paranoia dude and you have it bad!

 

[Deleted member 46119]

Agreed ....and not going to a state, where your mom lives, due to being pulled over? I have a pretty good feeling there's more to the OP's story/history than he's letting on...I wasn't going to post again....but what the heck ...bring it

Actually, no there isn't. You can disbelieve it all you want but you either failed to read it or failed to believe what was written.

The only infractions in my entire life are traffic tickets. You are finding in yourself to believe that somehow I am dirty. Um, ok, you are allowed to think what you like. Make false acquisitions. Anything. In fact, I am quite aware that we can all do what ever we want. Just have to be prepared to face the consequences. I hope you are well prepared for where you are treading.

Yes, I get very upset when some LEO wants to rattle his sabre by rattling my cage when I'm out of my territory and you know, when a new guy comes into your territory you want to know who he is. Rattle his cage and all. At home, I'm know by the locals. I don't get any worse or better treatment than anyone else. It still takes 45+ minutes for a response on a call of property invader and that is with gun (mine) mentioned in the call. However, when I had a road rage incident and was pinned down by the perpetrator, the officer on the other end of the 911 call started asking about what was what, she recognized who I was and it was comforting. I never found out what happened but they had his ranting and threats on the audio tape so I wasn't needed.

Since you are a police officer, I will gladly trade your badge information for my personal information so that you can run me. You won't find anything. I'm not paranoid of LE. I've stated all. The original post was an honest question from a person who doesn't know about 'profiling' out of state vehicles, officers who are 'bored' and all the other things. Oh and I remind you, the first time I was pulled over in Kansas my passenger was LE. He said the guy was just making his overtime. I should have gone to court.lightbulb

 

[Deleted member 46119]

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Now I will read TopGun 30-06's predicable retort. I predict it will contain personal insults and falsehoods.

***You lose that bet too! Other than saying I'm done with you and the fact that in dealing with you the old saying that you can't fix stupid sure is true I'm outta here with better things to do than argue with someone who is just arguing for arguments sake. That is a typical sign of paranoia dude and you have it bad!

Really, one insult, multiple falsehoods and an attempt to win the debate by being dismissive. Bravo.

Giving up so easily after so much work to make this thread about something it never was about. Come on. Don't be a quitter.

 

[kaseyfied]

Yes please , before I go nuts reading this garbage

Kasey

 

[Brewer]

One of the reasons I read and write on this forum is because when I look at internet forums, there is a lot of posturing and foolish arguing that didn't seem to be on this one. There are a lot of heavy hitters on here that we can all learn from, but when there are arguments that take place like this, we are discouraging them from wanting to get involved. What you guys are doing is arguing about your experiences, not whether something is right or wrong. So nobody is going to win, and by arguing, you are losing a lot or respect from other guys on this forum.

 

[KYpatriot]

One of the reasons I read and write on this forum is because when I look at internet forums, there is a lot of posturing and foolish arguing that didn't seem to be on this one. There are a lot of heavy hitters on here that we can all learn from, but when there are arguments that take place like this, we are discouraging them from wanting to get involved. What you guys are doing is arguing about your experiences, not whether something is right or wrong. So nobody is going to win, and by arguing, you are losing a lot or respect from other guys on this forum.

I agree. This thread had the potential to discuss some serious, and timely issues we face in this country but unfortunately devolved into a ******* contest and emotional outbursts. This is the unfortunate nature of the Internet where people say things they would not if they were face to face, just like when people do the same behind the wheel as if their car were an invincible fortress.

It's unfortunate because police officers can represent the very best and very worst qualities of the American citizen, depending on the example. I believe there is a culture shift being thrust upon them by the politicians and the entire leftist shift in society today that does not bode well for the citizen or the upright liberty loving officer. The exact kind of person we would love to see in uniform behind the badge is getting stuck between the proverbial rock and hard place and will continue to be so until the American people do a better job of electing pols that respect the Constitution and stop giving these men terrible laws to enforce.

I believe each officer has the duty to protect the Constitution and liberty first of all, but the citizens place them in a difficult, and increasingly impossible position of demanding that they respect the rule of law embodied in the Constitution while electing lawless politicians that write garbage laws that obliterate the rule of law. The officer should be the last resort for protecting us from tyranny, not the first line of defense. We blame the local department for increasing crime. We don't want to pay for better training for the officers tasked with protecting the public but then cry foul when they don't know the law as well as they should. We declare a " war on drugs" but then complain that law enforcement increasingly looks more like a military unit than peace officers, using combat tactics instead of community policing.

All of this is a result of the failure of the citizen, first and foremost. This is what happens when you have a system of SELF government but the citizen acts more like a subject than a citizen, and abdicates their DUTY as citizens to hold government accountable and instead focuses on entertainment or how to use a politician as a weapon to gain an advantage over another citizen. Tyranny is inevitable if that continues, and police officers trying to fulfill their oath to the rule of law are the very first casualties when the rule of law decays, as it will in that situation. The officer gets to choose between providing for their family by bending or breaking the Constitution/civil liberty, or falling on their sword. Nice, sign me up for that. Do we wonder why our best and brightest are starting to look elsewhere, and why the badge is losing its shine and proper place of respect? We did it to ourselves by assuming government and our God given rights are somebody else's problem instead of our responsibility.

You want to fix this, then get serious about not outsourcing your children's freedom. Demand that government follow the LAW, not what benefits you personally. Choose liberty over security. That means accepting the risks that entails. If your neighborhood is a crime infested hole that is not your police officer's fault...and it you make it their fault and demand they fix it then don't be upset when their heavy handed tactics come down on you as well, because you are getting what you asked for. Crime is a function and reflection of the moral values of the citizenry, and if you try to use police alone to fix that problem you will certainly lose liberties, as the only tool they have is force and or arrest. Again, be careful what you ask for.

Don't be that guy complaining that the police or judge let a guy off on a technicality...that technicality has another name called the Constitution, or your RIGHTS. Those rights can and do protect the guilty as well as the innocent- that is the price we pay for freedom. Our forefathers understood that a government with the power to stop all crime would at the same time destroy all freedom, and chose the risks inherent in the rule of law instead of the certain evil of the rule of men. You can't have your cake and eat it too. In case your wondering if they made the wrong choice then I suggest you go to other lands that placed their trust in government rather than freedom enshrined in the rule of law. I have, and learned that the officer who follows the law and thus has to, for example, let a potential bad guy go because of the fourth amendment, is the very mechanism that keeps us free. He should be praised, not criticized for this. Instead we reward stats like conviction rates and enforcement quotas.

A free society that continues to place officers in the impossible position of being solely responsible to correct the ills of society while simultaneously complaining when they try should not be surprised when they choose the easier route of ignoring the rule of law and giving the serfs and politicians what they want, which is "results" instead of freedom. They shouldn't, but they are human and we can't have it both ways.

As Frank Zappa said:
"Do you love it?
Do you hate it?
There it is, the way you made it..."

Be a citizen, not a serf. If enough of us do, any problems with the police will fix themselves, as they will be relieved of trying to do the impossible on our behalf.