Hammer Hunters?

[Northkill]

Let us know how it goes. Good luck

Here is the heart from an elk last week with my eldm's

Had to have been a Creedmoor that did that.

 

[Petey308]

Most times it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand "what" is seen.

Yep, and I'm no rocket scientist.

Not much can be done to make a typical Berger style C&C react reliably to 3500+ fps impacts. It's just outside the design parameters.

Sure, and that's why you simply do t use such a big cartridge to push those. Not only is it not needed, it's too much. Lots of other benefits to using a smaller lighter rifle too.

Even then often get some impressively explosive results at closer ranges. But that's what I expect, and don't call it a failure.

Yeah, that's why adjusting your shot placement is sometimes necessary in order to prevent that. And yes, using a bullet outside its limitations is not a failure in the bullet.

 

[Petey308]

Had to have been a Creedmoor that did that.

The M in ELDM stands for "Meatgrinder"

 

[Quintus]

The cap on the MCGUIRE is an absolute work of art,

Is the cap going to classify this bullet as an FMJ and be eliminated as legal in alot of states?

 

[Northkill]

Yep, and I'm no rocket scientist.

Sure, and that's why you simply do t use such a big cartridge to push those. Not only is it not needed, it's too much. Lots of other benefits to using a smaller lighter rifle too.

Yeah, that's why adjusting your shot placement is sometimes necessary in order to prevent that. And yes, using a bullet outside its limitations is not a failure in the bullet.

All obvious. No worries. I'm sure folks are benefitting.

 

[ButterBean]

Is the cap going to classify this bullet as an FMJ and be eliminated as legal in alot of states?

No

 

[Quintus]

No

I have not seen thes, just looking at their site the cap seems to match the jacket perfectly. making it look like a solid.

 

[Northkill]

Showing a bisected 160 gr 7mm Copper Rose we did along with the Apex. I think that was the 7mm 145/147 Afterburner. Tip got a little messed up in the cutting process. Also a clean and expanded version of the McGuire.

 

[berettacowboy]

Just my experience with hammer hunters but I have not experienced what you describe. Actually just finishing up a week of hunting in Texas. We took 12 animals with .224 cal 63gr absolute hammers, 124gr 6.5mm hammer hunters, and 140gr 7mm absolute hammers. Shots ranged from 30 yards to 385 yards. Pigs, Catalina nanny goats, aoudad and two bison all fell to the hammers. Most of our shots were good. A couple not so much. Didn't matter. Only animal that didn't bleed was an aoudad ewe that was gut shot (wind was ripping at 20mph and she was 385 yards away. Little more wind drift than we realized). She only went about 75 yards and laid down in the brush. We knew about where she went so we gave it a couple hours went back and she was too weak to stand up and one of the guys finished her off. Bison were both shot from close range behind the base of the skull. Bang flop. Everything else was pretty standard lung shots and nothing went more than a few yards.

My guess is you may have gotten a batch of bullets made with the old copper that had some issues or your running them a little slow. Speed is your friend with hammers. Or just luck of the draw. No bullets are perfect so maybe you had bullets that didn't work.

Just my experience with hammer hunters but I have not experienced what you describe. Actually just finishing up a week of hunting in Texas. We took 12 animals with .224 cal 63gr absolute hammers, 124gr 6.5mm hammer hunters, and 140gr 7mm absolute hammers. Shots ranged from 30 yards to 385 yards. Pigs, Catalina nanny goats, aoudad and two bison all fell to the hammers. Most of our shots were good. A couple not so much. Didn't matter. Only animal that didn't bleed was an aoudad ewe that was gut shot (wind was ripping at 20mph and she was 385 yards away. Little more wind drift than we realized). She only went about 75 yards and laid down in the brush. We knew about where she went so we gave it a couple hours went back and she was too weak to stand up and one of the guys finished her off. Bison were both shot from close range behind the base of the skull. Bang flop. Everything else was pretty standard lung shots and nothing went more than a few yards.

My guess is you may have gotten a batch of bullets made with the old copper that had some issues or your running them a little slow. Speed is your friend with hammers. Or just luck of the draw. No bullets are perfect so maybe you had bullets that didn't work.

Entrance and exit from a blacktail with the 143 hammer out of a 7rm Tikka. Mv 3065, impact velocity approx 2700. 230 yards

 

[berettacowboy]

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Entrance and exit from a blacktail with the 143 hammer out of a 7rm Tikka. Mv 3065, impact velocity approx 2700. 230 yards

 

[WYO300RUM]

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Doing any hunting in X5A and B muley's ?

 

[berettacowboy]

Doing any hunting in X5A and B muley's ?

Hunt b and c zone. Haven't been drawn for x5a but know the area some.

 

[Ronald W Schaefer]

Sounds like if you use hammer bullets you gonna need a good tracking dawg. Visit my daughter-in-law at South Texas Teckels--They'll get you a critter that can find your hammer shot animals!

 

[Rosebud]

Is the cap going to classify this bullet as an FMJ and be eliminated as legal in alot of states?

I hunted with a Remington bronze point bullet in the 70,s, it worked very well. I was accused of using a FMJ at the time by a game warden. Took some time to get him to understand that it wasn't.