Hammer bullets WTH

[Rosebud]

That is interesting,
In the 7 PRC I'm just starting to load for I'm getting 2980 with168 Classic Hunter. And 3140 with a Hammer Hunter143. These are just my 1st efforts, I think there's more there because I didn't have any pressure signs.
Sadly I must wait until it gets back from the gun maker, issues with feeding, but the rifle is accurate.

 

[Korhil78]

All I'm saying is, this whole thread is really weird and I definitely don't believe it all. I'm not a hammer lover or hater. I use them but I'm also using McGuire Ballistics copper rose and have used the CEB Lazers.

You would have to have a 28"-30" barrel to comfortably get the velocities he is claiming. The other thread he is using a 20" barrel. But whatevs…in the end, it doesn't even matter so I will check out lol.

Yall have a good week and don't forget to put in for your hunts!

 

[FireFlyFishing]

Interesting...... https://www.longrangehunting.com/threads/7mm-prc.341812/post-2925178

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[Teekerguy]

No bullets are perfect but I'd have to agree most "problems" are shooter induced. I've had to use 2-3 on a buck once with a SST back in the day and I instantly thought "MAN! That buck was tuough!"…..but low and behold I was just a crappy shot lol third shot finally hit the heart then the buck expired

 

[Teekerguy]

 

[flyguy1]

expecting a copper to kill like a cup and core is setting yourself up for disappointment and so I choose the latter.

I don't accept that. Before Hammers existed, I switched from Partitions to Barnes, because a buddy who butchered game was impressed with their performance.

Deer mostly DRT or only a step or two. 300 WinMag, admittedly, and never took risky shots. But copper killed as well as the venerable Partition.

 

[Joefrazell]

I don't accept that. Before Hammers existed, I switched from Partitions to Barnes, because a buddy who butchered game was impressed with their performance.

Deer mostly DRT or only a step or two. 300 WinMag, admittedly, and never took risky shots. But copper killed as well as the venerable Partition.

That's your experience. Generally speaking I think it's hard to argue that if one is going to kill better it's the cup and core. Tons of examples of guys using Barnes and having long tracking jobs. It's hard to argue against micro metal fragmentation causing more tissue trauma.

 

[dogz]

Obviously, expectations are very individual things but that does not mean that expectations are immune from being unreasonable and I am not saying the OP's expectations are or are not unreasonable. But the key issue (IMHO) is this post is dependent on what those expectations are. (I thoroughly enjoy the various technical discussions of bullet performance and I am going to research more about SG and how it relates to terminal performance). But much of the 10 previous pages are driven by an initial statement related to failed expectations and we don't know what they were with any specificity.

The first shot in the video linked occurs ~ at the 54 minute mark, the second shot at 54:17 seconds. Note, the moose was on its feet for ~20 seconds after the second shot and for 10 seconds after the 1st huge gush of blood from the side followed by the gush from the nose and mouth (is that performance "below" expectations?). In my opinion, the video indicates the second shot resulted at minimum of massive damage heart and potentially the lungs (lung damaged may have occurred on the first shot allowing for the blood to exits the mouth).

Typical moose reaction, I recall talking with Bob Hagel many moons ago and he mentioned that moose like to sit around and chit chat for a couple of minutes or so after being hit........

 

[dogz]

I just thought I'd stomp the nest. I'm in Mexico mule deer hunting and my 7 prc is loaded with 170 hht . I just thought I'd try them being I have never killed anything with hammer bullets and this will be my last time ever shooting these things! Shot a buck at 318 had to shoot him twice and could have used another. Shot buck at 785 he needed another bullet is running 3220 FPS!
Going back to my Berger's and Barnes !
Yes all well placed shots! Just my personal opinion I'm out!

12 Pages...........on something that could happen with any fricken bullet ever made..........can't make this gack up eh

 

[FireFlyFishing]

12 Pages...........on something that could happen with any fricken bullet ever made..........can't make this gack up eh

This one might go 35 pages.