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Hammer Bullets and Hyper Velocity, The Misconception
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FarLeg is his name and he's no average Joe, He was in the "Pest Control" business for many a year
Huntnful
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Another thing I've notice with the hammers. The noses and hollow points are basically the same size across the given caliber. Meaning the pedals entering the cavity are the same size no matter the bullet weight (generally). And the weight adjustments are made up in the shank area. So going lighter/faster, doesn't reduce the size of the pedals, only the size of the shank. So pick a bullet weight with a shank size you believe will have the adequate penetration you want on a given animal or shot angle, and then push it fast for the added terminal performance.
HARPERC
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One of those things a smaller group got enthusiastic about, and perhaps misled the larger audience.
We know where the lower level threshold is, and are just having fun chasing the upper end for this bullet. If there is one we haven't found a twist or velocity that's destroyed one yet.
Also there have been some efforts with slightly different designs, weights, and weight retention. Some that worked, others not as well as bullets already in the line.
Some worked well, but only within limits.
At any rate lots of conversations not everyone was a part of led to som misunderstanding.
I'm looking forward to the new 120 grain Lever Hammer in my 7.62x39. @ButterBean will likely run them nearly twice as fast in his "Mule". It will be useful for a variety of needs.
HARPERC
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You're almost there then!
CBH Australia
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If he's the fella I was talking too then, Im happy to back your view.
He's still getting an order from me shortly. Work gets in the way of our interests but I'm trying to make time for my interests.
Yep, that's him
Quicksilver338
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One thing I think a lot of hunters look past is RPM and stabilization factor, and the terminal affects of it if you have plenty of it. This is extremely critical with mono bullets to have enough to get them to perform as intended, but an added bonus to any bullet if you can get them high on the stability scale.
Yes Sir , we have tested this extensively, The faster she's spinning the better it is
340Wby-4-everything
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Would be interested when you do chrono as I am a 340 fan/user as well. That 186gr has to be clipping along at 3400+MV
I enjoyed the Aussie look at Hammers. I do not shoot long range in the woods of N. Louisiana nor in the brush of S. Texas (guest on a lease). The shots in LA are less than 100yds and I cannot shoot at anything over 200yds in TX because I must be sure that doe is not a button buck. My favorite round is the 358 Winchester loaded HOT with 200g RN Sierra Gamekings. I have shot a couple with my 375 RUM with 350g SGKs (Wow what a slap down hit: blood, bone and lung in the exit wound). I am sure the Hammers are great but the 200g RN Sierras kill with dispatch, and are low cost.
I had a challenge with Hammer Hunter last week…260 gr 338 NM 2850 fps, 70 yds. Good sized 6x6 bull elk, two solid broadsides shots - one more in the shoulder the other a little behind should. Bull ran approx 500 yd…third shot further back hit liver. Upon autopsy, first two shots didn't penetrate chest cavity, sent small fragments into on side lung. May be isolated event but concerning. Fortunately recover bull.
beretzs
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Did you find bullet chunks in the shoulder when you skinned the bull? Man, it is surprising a solid bullet could ever come apart like that.
Quicksilver338
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Why is it all the negative reviews on any bullet are always with elk 
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