For 7 mm enthusiasts

[MudRunner2005]

Thanks for the advice, but the real producers of single shots you'll find in Europe due to history and market. BTW, I know the Ruger falling block nr.1, a really good gun which I got the opportunity to try once before. But there are Krieghoffs, Merkels, Blasers so on and the super expensive custom rifles from Ferlach in Austria which really count. I've even seen one of your favorite calibres 257 Wby in the "gallery". They are build with so little tolerances that they never change their POI when reassembled. I'm in the beginning of my 50ties and the older you become the more you think about comfort... Could be worth thinking about such a gun. It's no issue reloading them if you're trained and familiar to single shot rifles. As you mentioned once before, that we always try to kill the game by good shot - placement like double lungshot. Normally no second shot is required.

I've shot some Kreighoff and Merkel shotguns back when I was into shooting sporting clays. They make some NICE stuff, that I could never afford. I've never heard of Ferlach before. I'll have to check them out. And yes, .257 Wby is one of my all-time favorites. It's just an excellent caliber for light recoil (for a magnum) and incredible speed and flat trajectory. You get the best of both worlds.

 

[Varberger757]

I've shot some Kreighoff and Merkel shotguns back when I was into shooting sporting clays. They make some NICE stuff, that I could never afford. I've never heard of Ferlach before. I'll have to check them out. And yes, .257 Wby is one of my all-time favorites. It's just an excellent caliber for light recoil (for a magnum) and incredible speed and flat trajectory. You get the best of both worlds.

Yes, take a look at the famous manufacturers i Ferlach! It's quite a big number of them, you''ll be astonished. They are the same for single shot rifles what Purdey, H & H etc. are for shotguns. Absolutely worth it. gun)

 

[clemens]

Really enjoying this thread. Good clean discussion marked me want to get another 7mm. I had a nice Ruger 77 years ago and was looking at the older tang safety and the 3 position 77's this last Sunday at few pawn shops. Would love a sendero as well. Just have to keep eyes open for that deal you can't pass up.

 

[MudRunner2005]

These days, if you're seriously hunting an original Sendero, or a Sendero SF in a 7mm caliber, you'd better jump on it regardless of price. They're getting hard to find.

I would love to have a Sendero SF in 7mm RemMag as a little brother to my 7mm STW.

 

[clemens]

I have noticed they are rare and spendy

 

[MudRunner2005]

I have noticed they are rare and spendy

If you find a "low mileage" model, they're worth EVERY penny.

 

[Varberger757]

I have noticed they are rare and spendy

They're not only rare and spendy but also only for righthanded! Bad luck for me.
I've to try a 700 CDL or XCR in that case and then upgrade them, or are going to purchase a European model.

 

[Varberger757]

These days, if you're seriously hunting an original Sendero, or a Sendero SF in a 7mm caliber, you'd better jump on it regardless of price. They're getting hard to find.

I would love to have a Sendero SF in 7mm RemMag as a little brother to my 7mm STW.

Agree with you, but if Clemens doesn't find a Sendero he should look after the Tikka Hunter with fluted barrel. Looks great, shoots fantastically out of the box and are reasonable priced. Personally, I would recommend Tikkas with wooden or laminated stocks before the plastic ones. Those are not good enough, slippery and noisy (IMO). The only disadvantage that I see with Tikkas' is that they will be delivered with 24' bbl on max. Not good enough for a 7RM IMO, but to begin with more than sufficient. There is a big aftermarket for Tikkas' as well and if someone wishes he'll find f. ex. top barrels from Krieger, Bartlein etc. gun)

 

[clemens]

I think rem missed the boat on that one when they came out with the sender for only right hand shooters.

 

[MudRunner2005]

I think rem missed the boat on that one when they came out with the sender for only right hand shooters.

They're not only rare and spendy but also only for righthanded! Bad luck for me.
I've to try a 700 CDL or XCR in that case and then upgrade them, or are going to purchase a European model.

Now, this is a US poll, not a world-wide poll...But it says that only 10-15% of people are left-handed. That leaves 85-90% right-handed.

It would be hard to justify tooling, CAD time, R&D, and trial and error for a company to justify making left-handed guns for 15% of it's clientel.

Granted, Remington has made left-handed 700's for quite a while now, so I do agree that they could have sold several more Senderos if they were offered in left handed as well.

I have several friends who hunt and shoot and they are dominantly left-handed, BUT they do almost everything right-handed. They shoot right-handed guns, and shoot them in right-handed form. Shoot right-handed bows. They do everything right-handed, except write.

But, like I said before, the overhead for manufacturing something simply to appease 15% of your clientel is hard to justify.

So, I can understand why Remington didn't make every model rifle in a left-handed configuration...There would still be dealers with left-handed 700's sitting on the shelves and stocked up in the stock room from 10 years ago.

Left-Handed Shooters and Left-Handed Guns | Field & Stream

 

[Varberger757]

Now, this is a US poll, not a world-wide poll...But it says that only 10-15% of people are left-handed. That leaves 85-90% right-handed.

It would be hard to justify tooling, CAD time, R&D, and trial and error for a company to justify making left-handed guns for 15% of it's clientel.

Granted, Remington has made left-handed 700's for quite a while now, so I do agree that they could have sold several more Senderos if they were offered in left handed as well.

I have several friends who hunt and shoot and they are dominantly left-handed, BUT they do almost everything right-handed. They shoot right-handed guns, and shoot them in right-handed form. Shoot right-handed bows. They do everything right-handed, except write.

But, like I said before, the overhead for manufacturing something simply to appease 15% of your clientel is hard to justify.

So, I can understand why Remington didn't make every model rifle in a left-handed configuration...There would still be dealers with left-handed 700's sitting on the shelves and stocked up in the stock room from 10 years ago.

Left-Handed Shooters and Left-Handed Guns | Field & Stream

Of course the market is the most important for any enterprise, Remington included. I accept that fully, look above! Concerning the Sendero I would like to add that the Sendero is not the normal diet both due to price, fabricated volume and its extra quality standards. So Remington's management should know that producing a small number of LH Senderos wouldn't be a big thing since LH actions er ready to use. Personally I'd like to have Senderos as top gun - platforms. I saw an impressive video by Gunwerks about "tuning" a 7RM Sendero. It was just about a triggerjob and bedding og the recoil - lug with epoxy to eliminate all possible tolerances. The gun shot awesome. For sure, that me and other interested lefties would like to purchase one if possible. gun)

 

[MudRunner2005]

For an alternative, you could always order a Remington 700 SPS Stainless left handed rifle, and then pull the barrel, and stock immediately. Then order a Sendero SF 7mm bull barrel from Remington (if they'll sell one), and put you an H.S. Precision Sendero stock on it, and VIOLA!!! You have a left handed Sendero.

Sadly, it would cost you about the same as what it could cost me to go buy a Sendero SF in used condition. Which kinda ****es me off.

 

[Varberger757]

For an alternative, you could always order a Remington 700 SPS Stainless left handed rifle, and then pull the barrel, and stock immediately. Then order a Sendero SF 7mm bull barrel from Remington (if they'll sell one), and put you an H.S. Precision Sendero stock on it, and VIOLA!!! You have a left handed Sendero.

Sadly, it would cost you about the same as what it could cost me to go buy a Sendero SF in used condition. Which kinda ****es me off.

Wow M-R, you are faster than lightning! What a brilliant idea, and I'm going keep that in mind. If I can't get a Remington bull barrel, I'm going to purchase a stainless 26' bbl from Pac Nor, Walther or Lilja, no problem. Suppose that the action has to be adjusted as well for the best performance.

 

[Varberger757]

For an alternative, you could always order a Remington 700 SPS Stainless left handed rifle, and then pull the barrel, and stock immediately. Then order a Sendero SF 7mm bull barrel from Remington (if they'll sell one), and put you an H.S. Precision Sendero stock on it, and VIOLA!!! You have a left handed Sendero.

Sadly, it would cost you about the same as what it could cost me to go buy a Sendero SF in used condition. Which kinda ****es me off.

BTW, what do you think about my idea using Tikkas' as platform for a decent 7mm gun? Clemens was wondering what kind of product he should use, Ruger 77, Rem 700 and so on.